I'm not allowed to get into MY aeroplane and fly it in MY country's airspace on Sunda

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04-22-2016, 08:18 AM
Sir C

I'm not allowed to get into MY aeroplane and fly it in MY country's airspace on Sunda

because some foul Yanqui needs all of England's airspace to launch his ridiculous, ancient, creaking, polluting noisy first generation jet to take him home. Can US pilots not fly an accurate heading, for ****'s sake? Why must we all suffer for the inadequacies of American pilot training, and how dare our mewling limp-wristed half-dicked overlords give in and GROUND ME FOR THE SAKE OF SOME ****ING COLONIAL?

I am angered.
04-22-2016, 08:22 AM
SWv2

I sense your anger but for us non-plane people the whole scenario probably needs further detail.

For example you say this person needs "all of England's airspace". Are you suggesting no amateur plane enthusiast from Cumbria to Cornwall is allowed to fly?
04-22-2016, 08:25 AM
Sir C

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWv2

I sense your anger but for us non-plane people the whole scenario probably needs further detail.

For example you say this person needs "all of England's airspace". Are you suggesting no amateur plane enthusiast from Cumbria to Cornwall is allowed to fly?

Just the south-east, really. But still. For ****'s sake.

A Yank. A bloody Yank!
04-22-2016, 08:27 AM
7sisters

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04-22-2016, 08:27 AM
SWv2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir C

Just the south-east, really. But still. For ****'s sake.

A Yank. A bloody Yank!

Again, I sympathise. Do you have a link to the actual story in any way. Sounds ****ing bizarre and very rum.

Have you written to your MP?
04-22-2016, 08:31 AM
redgunamo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir C

because some foul Yanqui needs all of England's airspace to launch his ridiculous, ancient, creaking, polluting noisy first generation jet to take him home. Can US pilots not fly an accurate heading, for ****'s sake? Why must we all suffer for the inadequacies of American pilot training, and how dare our mewling limp-wristed half-dicked overlords give in and GROUND ME FOR THE SAKE OF SOME ****ING COLONIAL?

I am angered.

Security Reasons, is it?
04-22-2016, 08:32 AM
Sir C

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWv2

Again, I sympathise. Do you have a link to the actual story in any way. Sounds ****ing bizarre and very rum.

Have you written to your MP?

It's what's called a NOTAM or 'Notice To Airmen'. I think you'd need to register to see the site. Here is the text.

RESTRICTED AREA (TEMPORARY). RESTRICTION OF FLYING REGULATIONS
MADE UNDER ARTICLE 161 OF THE AIR NAVIGATION ORDER 2009. NO ACFT IS
TO FLY WI THE AREA BOUNDED BY STRAIGHT LINES JOINING THE FOLLOWING
POINTS 514508N 0001309E - 514055N 0000652E - 513232N 0000055W THEN
THE ANTI-CLOCKWISE ARC OF A CIRCLE HAVING A RADIUS OF 17 NAUTICAL
MILES CENTRED ON 512812N 0002713W FROM 513232N 0000055W TO 513611N
0000311W THEN STRAIGHT LINES JOINING THE FOLLOWING POINTS 513611N
0000311W - 513611N 0001830W - 515101N 0000025W - 515146N 0000006W -
515155N 0000120E THEN THE ANTI-CLOCKWISE ARC OF A CIRCLE HAVING A
RADIUS OF RADIUS 8 NAUTICAL MILES CENTRED ON 515306N 0001406E FROM
515155N 0000120E TO 514508N 0001309E. THESE RESTRICTIONS DO NOT APPLY
TO ANY AIRCRAFT MAKING AN APPROACH TO, OR DEPARTING FROM, LONDON
STANSTED AIRPORT WHILST UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE LONDON TERMINAL
CONTROL CENTRE AT SWANWICK OR OPERATED BY THE NATIONAL POLICE AIR
SERVICE OR THE HELICOPTER EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES OR OPERATED WITH
THE AUTHORITY OF CHIEF INSPECTOR VINCE BRADY OF THE METROPOLITAN
POLICE SERVICE WHO MAY BE CONTACTED THROUGH THE NATIONAL POLICE AIR
SERVICE AT LIPPITTS HILL ON TELEPHONE 020 8345 4888. FULL DETAILS
INCLUDING A CHART CAN BE FOUND AT
WWW.NATS-UK.EAD-IT.COM/PUBLIC/INDEX.PHP.HTML. AUS 16-04-0166/AS6
04-22-2016, 08:32 AM
TheCurly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir C

Just the south-east, really. But still. For ****'s sake.

A Yank. A bloody Yank!

Chill.Undefeated in 6 Sir C....only 44 to go
04-22-2016, 08:36 AM
The Jorge

WHY DO THEY ALL SPEAK IN CAPSLOCK?

Surely every statement should start of with "Welcome aboard Ladies & Gentlemen we errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....."
04-22-2016, 08:36 AM
SWv2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir C

It's what's called a NOTAM or 'Notice To Airmen'. I think you'd need to register to see the site. Here is the text.

RESTRICTED AREA (TEMPORARY). RESTRICTION OF FLYING REGULATIONS
MADE UNDER ARTICLE 161 OF THE AIR NAVIGATION ORDER 2009. NO ACFT IS
TO FLY WI THE AREA BOUNDED BY STRAIGHT LINES JOINING THE FOLLOWING
POINTS 514508N 0001309E - 514055N 0000652E - 513232N 0000055W THEN
THE ANTI-CLOCKWISE ARC OF A CIRCLE HAVING A RADIUS OF 17 NAUTICAL
MILES CENTRED ON 512812N 0002713W FROM 513232N 0000055W TO 513611N
0000311W THEN STRAIGHT LINES JOINING THE FOLLOWING POINTS 513611N
0000311W - 513611N 0001830W - 515101N 0000025W - 515146N 0000006W -
515155N 0000120E THEN THE ANTI-CLOCKWISE ARC OF A CIRCLE HAVING A
RADIUS OF RADIUS 8 NAUTICAL MILES CENTRED ON 515306N 0001406E FROM
515155N 0000120E TO 514508N 0001309E. THESE RESTRICTIONS DO NOT APPLY
TO ANY AIRCRAFT MAKING AN APPROACH TO, OR DEPARTING FROM, LONDON
STANSTED AIRPORT WHILST UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE LONDON TERMINAL
CONTROL CENTRE AT SWANWICK OR OPERATED BY THE NATIONAL POLICE AIR
SERVICE OR THE HELICOPTER EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES OR OPERATED WITH
THE AUTHORITY OF CHIEF INSPECTOR VINCE BRADY OF THE METROPOLITAN
POLICE SERVICE WHO MAY BE CONTACTED THROUGH THE NATIONAL POLICE AIR
SERVICE AT LIPPITTS HILL ON TELEPHONE 020 8345 4888. FULL DETAILS
INCLUDING A CHART CAN BE FOUND AT
WWW.NATS-UK.EAD-IT.COM/PUBLIC/INDEX.PHP.HTML. AUS 16-04-0166/AS6

Could you not just steam ahead and say you didn't understand the message. To be quite frank I suspect the person that sent it was drunk. Good chance it is a prank.

Perhaps you could do one of those tricks and write LOL with your vapour trail?
04-22-2016, 08:39 AM
Sir C

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWv2

Could you not just steam ahead and say you didn't understand the message. To be quite frank I suspect the person that sent it was drunk. Good chance it is a prank.

Perhaps you could do one of those tricks and write LOL with your vapour trail?

Sadly, what with Obama being involved, I'd stand every chance of getting shot down :(

Me, a native Englishman (with Dutch/Irish details) getting shot down for the sake of a ****ing foreigner.

It's all wrong, I tell you. THIS is what 70 years of socialism has reduced us to.
04-22-2016, 08:40 AM
The Jorge

You're aware they "saved our asses in dubyadubyatoo"?

Show some patriotic deference to the US, man!
04-22-2016, 08:41 AM
Sir C

Quote:

Originally Posted by redgunamo

Security Reasons, is it?

'Security' reasons, indeed.

Ego reasons more like.

Who would be bothered wasting a servicable aeroplane just to crash into that limp dick? And if the septics don't believe that RAF can protect his blunderbus, why are they coming at all.

I hate every single **** involved in this story. If you'll forgive my language.

I'm quite overwrought this morning.
04-22-2016, 08:54 AM
SWv2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir C

Sadly, what with Obama being involved, I'd stand every chance of getting shot down :(

Me, a native Englishman (with Dutch/Irish details) getting shot down for the sake of a ****ing foreigner.

It's all wrong, I tell you. THIS is what 70 years of socialism has reduced us to.

Air Force One I assume.

That's how **** rolls with POTUS. I remember one of them was in Dublin a few years ago and they closed off the Quays, caused me no end of hassle to get home.

He drove past as I walked down towards the Point depot. Lots of people were waving flags, the ****ing saps.