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On the Victoria line heading towards Finsbury Park last night and a dishevelled young bloke next to
me started being very aggressive towards a chap who was minding his own business. The bloke shat himself and jumped off the train, at which point I considered doing the same as I didn’t fancy getting stuck in an enclosed tube train with an aggressive mental who may have a weapon and is presumably in the throes of some kind of psychotic episode.
Doors eventually close and we move off. About a minute later, the bloke starts on the chap next to me, who, being a feisty Irish sort, immediately fronted him out. Because of my position, I was clearly next in line so started to move down the carriage and jumped off at H&I amid lots of screaming.
You want to intervene, but how are you supposed to reason with an unhinged mental in an enclosed tube train? Is it best to stay out of it unless things escalate?
What would my fellow Awimbers have done in this situation?
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Pull the red cord when it gets to a station.
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We got stuck in a tunnel while it was happening.
Although by this time I had bravely ran away to the other end of the carriage :jewish:
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I presumed such situations were precisely what all you
benders were frequenting gym classes, and befouling the landscape s****ing about the place in your jogging trousers, in preparation for :shrug:
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Firstly, this is the tube, even if he stabs you do not engage in eye contact
I think you handled it in a textbook fashion, as befits an experienced Londoner.
You obviously couldve done without wetting yourself but as you didnt immediately drop to the ground and offer to suck his dick in exchange for any small degree of mercy I think you handled the situation rather well.
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Hahah, you didn't literally JUMP OFF,did you? You woudl have looked like
a bit of a prat doing that. I think you did the right thing though - no point in unecessary altercations with psychos. If he was bothering an old lady or someone defenceless in front of you though, the right thing would have been to stay there and try to help. As you describe it, you did what most people would do. Did you - inmid-flight - wish cancer upon him at least?
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I got stuck in your mum's tunnel last night.
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Was it Claude from ArsenalFan TV?
He must have been suicidal last night the poor thing :hehe:
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What was he saying/doing?
My usual move is to say f**k off and then walk off :smoothexit:
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When it comes to the mentals, I think all masculinity bets are off, to be fair.
Discretion is very much the better part of valour with the deranged and ****eing it is more socially acceptable than it might be in other circs.
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Chin the f**ker.
Always best to get your retaliation in before the event.
Self defence etc.
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Dear God. What saddens me isn't so much that you are a coward, for that is a given amongst your sort
What really disturbs me is your utter lack of shame in admitting to such cowardice.
In my day a chap would have done the decent thing and retired to his study with a revolver rather than be unmasked as a coward.
What has happened to this filthy world, that the likes of you roam shamelessly free? :-(
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But these situations are not about physical strength. They're about - if possible - diffusing the
situation.
If he wants to fight you, the ability to throw a good punch, or restrain them with some fancy martial arts move, is what's going to help you, not strength.
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and whilst they are mouthing off :jawbreaker:
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I agree. However, physical confidence is what I meant, rather than strength.
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He was a mental. It was very sad to see someone behave like that.
It's a stark reminder of what genuine mental illness looks like.
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But your mentals have no impulse control and possess great strength. Mental strengz, as AW would
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You don't have to go to the gym to display assertiveness.
in the face of aggression. That's about character.
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Would that not be a good muscle to exercise instead?
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A chap can analyse any given situation and find a reason to run away squealing like a little bitch.
All these reasons are simply excuses.
Are you a little bitch as well, b? Don't answer me. Answer yourself.
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I know that. My point is that, despite this fact, your sort still *do*.
Some sort of Clarke Kent Fantasy Delusion Syndrome seems to be at work.
Not enough rough play, climbing trees and fighting and whatnot in your formative years, I've always thought it must be.
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Am I going to start tangling with the mentally ill when it is quite possible to avoid the situation
and for me and mine to remain unscathed? Absof**kinglootly not.
I have no wish to end up the subject of a 'Paranoid schizophrenic decapitates commuter and wears his head as a hat for 5 stops'-type story just to satisfy your concepts of masculinity thank you very much.
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I don't ask you to satify 'my' anything, b. (Your mum does that.)
It is you who must live with yourself. I wish you luck.
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It's not about masculinity, as such. It's about responsibility.
Most of the women you know nowadays wouldn't turn their back in that situation.
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The fact is, if you can possibly remove yourself from a volatile situation, when you are no better
equipped than those around you to deal with it, and are only likely to escalate the situation by intervening, then you do so.
Had the bloke started on me, I would have probably tried to walk away from him. Had he become physically aggressive with me, I’d have probably tried to diffuse it by talking in a calm soothing voice and offering him a biscuit.
But if it became clear he was not backing down, I would have fought him :shrug:
Just because you're someone who would do everything they can to avoid violence does not make you a physical coward.
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you routinely carry biscuits around with you?
sounds like sex offender behaviour to me :sherlock:
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Yes. Which is how most chaps get dragged into these unfortunate situations trying to extricate their
womenfolk.
My 'responsibility' only kicks in when there is someone smaller, weaker or more female under threat. Until that time, it's every chap for himself.
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The other question is, when the aggressor is mental, how badly are you allowed to batter him?
When it’s just a drunk ****, all bets are off, and no-one would object to you sticking the boot in.
But what about when it’s a mental?
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I think it was code for oral pleasure
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I see. So next time a Jewish woman offers me a biscuit . . .
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Oh yes, that's what you're worried about, Big Man. You might batter him too hard.
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I’m very sure it was.
However in any of these scenarios a line is crossed where your own health and wellbeing is at risk, or perhaps others with you. If you personally believe the line has been crossed then you need to act and in a very enclosed situation like a tube making a swift exit may not be an option.
It’s not nice but if the bloke is in your face giving you dogs then what is your option.
How did the fella react to the feisty, and let’s be honest quite possibly drunk, son of Ireland?
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Again, I agree. I'm not saying it does, I never said it does.
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I'm happy with my moral code, thanks

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What sort of biscuit?
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No. I mean a person's responsibility to their environment as a whole.
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Eeeeeexactly!