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So the Football Supporters Federation - who do they represent then?
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35538047
I mean if someone flies 20,000 miles to watch their favourite team, possibly committing the sin of taking a picture of him-her-xe.self in the stadium, but generally wants his team to win - but takes the place of someone local who goes along to the game to spit bile and venom at his "beloved" team - which one is the "supporter" *
* I am in no way codoning the **** half and half scarves
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Anyone flying 20,000 miles has taken a remarkably roundabout route, to be fair.
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Woman pilot - she got lost
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I don't get this walkout business. If you're complaining about the price of a ticket surely
The best form of protest is not to buy said ticket, and not to buy it and then walk out before getting your money's worth.
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Brilliant isn't it. "I will pay your prices but to protest against the
the prices I will only get a fraction of the product for which I am paying"
f**king muppets
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Interesting from Jones btw - like the last line about Haskell (even if I don't like the player)
“We’ll pick the best 23 for Italy so we could conceivably pick a faster pack,†Jones said. “We’re going to make some changes. We’ll pick a side more specifically for Italy and it will revolve around a number of positions. Our selection policy is to pick the best 23 and what I think is the best 23 to play Italy could be considerably different from the best 23 that played against Scotland.â€
Jones described Robshaw’s performance as “tidy. It was good, he’ll only get betterâ€. But the head coach was pointedly rich in his praise for Haskell. “We don’t have a Test seven at the moment. Haskell did a super job at the weekend. He made 22 tackles. If McCaw makes 22 tackles, everyone raves about him. There is an obsession with turnovers here.
“We’re not obsessed with turn-overs. We’re obsessed with having a good defence, which we did against Scotland. We didn’t allow them to cross the line. And he was a genuine driving force as part of that defence. There is a rumour going round that James Haskell has got bad hands. That’s not true. He’s got terrible hands. But he used his hands really well. He was dynamite in defence.
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If they did not buy said ticket then chances are another would.
Thus the essence of the protest would be lost.
The best bit about last week’s demonstration at Anfield was them leaving at 2-0 to get home and find out they f**ked it up.
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That did amuse me greatly

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They are both customers engaging with the product in the way they see fit.
As the tourist will probably spend money in the shop, they are likely to be the preferred customer for the club. As the angry local is likelly to generate some sort of noise, he will be the preferred customer for the TV company.
Although contrary to the prevailing view on AWIMB, not all non-tourist customers spit bile and venom.
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They're complaining about the fact that they might not be able to go at all.
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I know loads of people who couldn't afford a Sky subscription any more
so they cancelled it and watch the games they want in the pub instead
I'm sure US sports are as expensive to watch in person as football matches are now in the PL. Do they also bitch and moan about it?
The fact is that football used to be a sport which only the working class would attend. Over the decades it removed a lot of violence and other bad behaviour, sexism, homophobia etc, clubs have invested in modern stadia to attract corporate visitors, European flights have become cheaper than taking a 25 min train journey, games on TV are incredibly high quality etc etc. The two eras are like chalk and cheese so it's pointless moaning that the "real" fans are being priced out of the game, because thos people are no more "real" by virtue of the fact that their father used to attend games, than Johnny Foreigner is
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Yeah, Haskell played well last week. He's right about turnovers. As long as you make sure you're
Slowing down their rucks and clearing out your own quickly it's not something worth worrying about.
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I broadly agree with where you're going with this, but the whole point is
that football, and specifically for these supporters, going to every one of your team's home games, is *different*.
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I wasn't suggesting they were, of course, but merely alluding to the fact that
the Football "Supporters" Federation would deem the latter worthy of their consideration but not the former. Rather reminds me of how that utter c**t Gordon Taylor of the Professional Footballer's Association would defend certain players (i.e. British) even if they had committed rape/murder yet would happily throw others i.e. Patrick Vieira under the bus at the first opportunity
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Unfortuantely though, it is not a God given right that you can always do what you have previously
this bit seems to escape them
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I would like to spend my whole life on safari
I can't afford to.
Tough tits on me.
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I think once you concede the point that football is unique, then all is lost.
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And I'm sure everyone here sympathises with you

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But when people have their things taken away from them and given to someone richer
they will inevitably be unhappy about it, even if one supports the notion that the rich should have all the things.
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But you'd think I was pretty silly if I went to Norman Carr Safaris and demanded they make it
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I'm thinking you're one of the few here who's committed to
attending each home game though, which means you're essentially wasting your breath with us.
You're in a completely different space, economically, socially, emotionally. And, as Kevin Keegan(?) said, for London trendies, going to the football is the same as going to the cinema, or the theatre. Or deciding whether to shop at Waitrose or the local market.
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Richer? Or merely people more prepared to pay the price?
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Your mate was a bit unlucky with the T20 squad
though might be a blessing in disguise on those tracks
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Your mum is cheaper than my wife

You can't take it with you, Sir C.
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loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.
Oh, sorry. I thought you were on about KP :homer:
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WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?
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My wife has just arranged for us to go back to Zambia in Octrober

There's going to be f**k all left to take with me, trust me.
Walking in the North Luangwa, r :cloud9:
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That Nepal spin bowler is going to make millions playing 20-20 imo
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Oh, just some South African leg spinner.
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There you are, you see. That's where we differ.
I've had a decent life and my legacy shall be my sons having a one hundred times better one. Which, quite frankly, involves spending as little time as possible in hellholes such as Zambia.
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Let's look at some A/B testing here
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Lusaka, I grant you, isn't the greatest of cities.
It's a different matter deep, deep in the bush, as well you know, you naughty man.
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What they used to have isn't what is on offer now. It's like someone in Shoreditch complaining that
the greasy spoon they used to visit with their mates every day is now a breakfast cereal bar charging 6 quid a pop
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Latin placards :EIE:
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People called Romanes they go to the 'ouse?
The top picture is clearly the club's target demographic, but then like the wicked marketing type you are you've gone and rigged the poll by making one option unpalatable.
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Vestri 'iens domum in armamentario ambulance
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I was a bit surprised he wasn't selected. Having recently had a 3rd child though, I'm sure
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Could be either tbf, but very often the latter

I sometimes wonder whether I have more available monies than the person who used to sit in my seat.
As Arsene nose, sometimes one has the money but does not find value in the market.
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Thing is, we're often told how great it is that Bayern offer
cheap seats and beer some of their supporters, yet when English fans ask for similar consideration, they get bantered off.
As ever, there's more to this than meets the eye.
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No it isn't.
I went to some length yesterday to explain how considering football as exactly the same as any other market commodity was a flawed.