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I am aware that the whole transgender thing is a particular bugbear of mine and a subject on which I
risk becoming a bore (or at least more of one than I am on other subjects), but it really, genuinely bothers me just how quickly an orthodoxy seems to have crept in that simply does not allow discussion of the fundamentals of this issue.
How did we get to a stage where, if a public figure refers to a transgender person by their biologically accurate personal pronoun or by their given forename, there is an outcry and apologies/sackings are demanded? How can it be that a publically-expressed degree of healthy scepticism over what is scientifically an extremely dubious matter (to say the least) is considered tantamount to a hate crime? How can we be in a situation where it is considered unreasonable that a volleyball player who is biologically a man is prevented by the sport's authorities from competing as a woman?
In short: what the f**k is wrong with everyone? :-(
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If Caitlyn Jenner has to do time will it be in a female or male prison?
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It's, you know, political correctness gone mad
First they came for BFR, but you said nothing...
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Re: If Caitlyn Jenner has to do time will it be in a female or male prison?
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No. It's more than that. Calling people nasty words is wrong and rude. On the other hand, pointing
out that someone with a functioning ***** and testicles and absolutely no female sexual characteristics whatsoever is not a woman is just a statement of fact. We are not dealing in opinions or prejudices here, we are dealing in demonstrable, dangly, meat-and-two-veg FACTS.
We are being made to conform to an out-and-out lie for fear of being thought intolerant. Even radical feminists are being cast into outer darkness or silenced on the grounds that they not unreasonably object to the idea that someone can pop on a wig, a frock and a bit of slap and call themselves a woman despite never having lived one minute as a woman in their lives.
It is genuinely - not just rhetorically - insane.
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Do you afford the intersexes any greater freedom to self-define?
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Your mum's intersex
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She was asking for it?
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They are different issues, certainly; but if you take a line from the PC
comedians / university movement of the 80s, through the likes of the BFR incident and the climate change industry to the current trans issues, you will note that the outstanding feature is the insistence on adherence to the sacred texts with NO DISSENT ALLOWED COMRADE!
The endgame is clearly the inhibition of freedom of speech as a method of inibiting freedom of thought; destroy imagination and you destroy ambition and aspiration - and then you have the grey, unthinking turnip-growing, tractor-producing drones required for Jeremy and his ilk to be truly free to enjoy their dachas in peace.
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I afford everyone the freedom to self-define. However, I expect them to afford me the freedom not to
accept their self-definition.
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Intersexes?
Have you just made that term up?
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I was with friends in Altrincham on the weekend. They were slagging Bradford off something rotten.
I almost felt compelled to defend it, purely on your behalf.
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what do you think the i in LGBTQI is?
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I'd assumed it was a special episode of QI for the benders, tbh
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How would you define an intersexer?
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Thank you. It's a bad time to knock Bradford, we just lost our Jesus Man
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Well I have never seen either the Q or the I in the term.
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There are some 58 possible genders currently recognised, you cisnormative, patriarchal dinosaur.
Agender
Androgyne
Androgynous
Bigender
Cis
Cisgender
Cis Female
Cis Male
Cis Man
Cis Woman
Cisgender Female
Cisgender Male
Cisgender Man
Cisgender Woman
Female to Male
FTM
Gender Fluid
Gender Nonconforming
Gender Questioning
Gender Variant
Genderqueer
Intersex
Male to Female
MTF
Neither
Neutrois
Non-binary
Other
Pangender
Trans
Trans*
Trans Female
Trans* Female
Trans Male
Trans* Male
Trans Man
Trans* Man
Trans Person
Trans* Person
Trans Woman
Trans* Woman
Transfeminine
Transgender
Transgender Female
Transgender Male
Transgender Man
Transgender Person
Transgender Woman
Transmasculine
Transsexual
Transsexual Female
Transsexual Male
Transsexual Man
Transsexual Person
Transsexual Woman
Two-Spirit
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Mental.
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Your mum's gender fluid
cost me a fortune in dry cleaning
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What do you suppose the Q is though? #sw'sdiversitypopquiz
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I'd define them as suffering from a narcissistic delusion
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Someone born with a cock and fanny is "mental"?
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At a guess approximately 50 of those are just made up.
Gender is male or female.
The rest are just f**king freaks.
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I'd say they were sorted. Just plug yourself into yourself and you're away
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Err, do you even know what the term means?
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Any chance he might rise again? It's only been a few hours.
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Oh, you mean the very, very rare medical condition? That's entirely different.
I would describe these people as 'freaks' and, 'God's punishment for something dreadful their parents did.'
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Imagine actual penetrative sex with all etiquette removed?
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:sigh: Get with the 21st century, daddio.
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I have slept with several Australians
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If this was a real quiz I would be too scared to guess 'Queer'
as it is probably offensive.
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Oh, no, Sorry. I'd just assumed we were talking about transgender people. You're talking about
hermaphrodites, who are very unfortunate souls suffering a horrible downstairs mix-up. :-(
I feel very sorry for them.
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What was wrong with the word 'hermaphrodite', anyway? We all know what a hermaphrodite is.
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It sounds a bit like 'heemasex'.
Is heemasex a preferred term these days?
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Good man Norn.
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The intersex referred to in LGBTQI are these people
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Their respective genitalia are generally withered and useless.
Literally, the worst of both worlds. :-(
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It's either questioning or queer, well played from the ulstermen
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Downstairs mixup?
