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I've always thought the role of training sessions is overlooked by football fans
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I would suggest any football fan would know that training is an essential part of any sport
so how you think it is overlooked is beyond me
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I mean the role it plays in informing a manager's judgement,
particularly with regard to match day selection.
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Again I would suggest that the majority of fans would expect training to play an important part in
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I think he's bantered himself off with shithousery there, Clive
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Really? You never see it mentioned, even hypothetically
Whereas plenty of other hypotheticals are always put forward
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I never thought I'd see Arsene using the word "Vibe"
f**king British core. He'll be saying "innit" next and flicking his fingers an ting
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Why would fans mention it?
We have absolutely no idea what happens in training or the performance of individuals, the attitude of players during.
Let's be honest, if a person did mention training as a hypothetical I would imagine you to be among the very first to attack their comment based on the above.
We can however comment on match day performances and link that tangible though objective factor towards team selection.
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Untrue. Take, for example, Billy Goats' comment in this thread from last summer
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so 1 thread for last summer proves your point how?
we don't see training so how can we comment on it... you don't often hear a manager saying i haven't picked x because he couldn't control a bag of cenment in training.... so how can we know?
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I remember that well
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But as I've said already, football fans are not normally shy about putting forward hypothetical
theories about a manager's decisions. So why do they never mention training?
You are right, it is an assumption, but my suspicion is that it's because they overlook its importance.
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Mate, you do not come off well in that thread at all, but I'm happy to overlook it
in exchange for focussing on just how clever it makes me look :-)
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But people do mention training quite often which rather knocks your argument there
Simply making something up to suit you doesn't make it true :shrug:
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Because he expressed some personal reservations on Giroud?
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Well clearly Park's fantastic vibes in training weren't enough to influence Wenger's selection.
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Well both of you have a point.
LA and others expressed an opinion at the time, nothing wrong with that. You should not be making yourself comfortable on your high horse simply because some 12-18 months later he is playing very well.
A players performance in training is simply that, training, a competitive arena of sorts but not in any way the same as a match. A player can be “flying in training†but **** in matches.
Similarly the history of football would throw up players who perhaps weren’t up for training but come match day the situation reversed.
Of course a manager will see training as an influential factor in team selection. Training is still a fundamental part of a footballers job and will form part of how their manager assesses them. Not for us to comment on all the same as I mentioned before it is a factor which not one of us has a single clue about.
Ultimately however, and this is completely beyond argument, it is what a footballer does in games that is of prime importance.
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Really? Could you find me any examples from Awimb?
Posts by me don't count :-)
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Though I am going to be consistent is still slating the vain French**** despite his clearly rather magnificent performances recently if that is all right with you :thumbup:
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If it's any consolation, I still think we might need someone better to win a proper trophy
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Fabianski and Paul McGrath are 2 examples that spring to mind
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Indeed, the causes of LA's concerns have in no way changed.
He still lacks pace and he still doesn't play to the whistle.
Now, had LA declared, 'He's f**king ****e' in the manner of some of our less thoughtful contributors, one might easily accuse him of bantering himself off with ****housery.
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I still think the abject lack of pace stops him being a top, top striker
Incident on Saturday when he played a one two and looked like he was running through treacle and Federici got their first. Reckon even Per would have got there. I will admit other aspects of his game have come on wonderfully
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What's your reasoning?
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Well, Costa might be better than him
If so, maybe having a Costa would help.
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You too made a (imo) valid criticism, or comment, on him.
Which I would say today is still valid.
Thing is neither your or LA's criticism of the player is to deny he has had a good season. I don't see that season however as elevating him to being one of the very best there is, similar to how Harry Kane's season does not make him one of the very best in the PL.
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Absolutely. And, remarkable as it might seem, given his limitations,
he might end up being one of our most important players in next season's title-winning charge.
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I believe liverpool are putting up fences to prevent this.