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Following the 'Middle class' bit below, have you been socailly mobile?
I see myself as moving from 'Call the midwife'' to 'Keeping up appearances''.
Poplar maisonette to Semi-detached in a medium sized village.
Still working class though (He says whilst eating Corned Beef)
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Being of immigrant stock, one has no connection with the class system.
A foreigner cannot be working or middle class, and neither can his children.
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Yup. Middle class upbringing to agrarian peasant
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Well there goes half of Londons Upper classes then.
They may not agree with you.
Anyhow, we are all immigrants
My view tends to be it goes more with education these days as money in no measure of class
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''The Good life'' to ''Mayor of Castrbridge'' then?
Interesting as you would have though the titles would lead to the opposite
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This is the UK we are talking about here. Your class is defined by the 10 generations
before you. You may think you are middle class now, but you are most assuredly not. You are what your great-grandfather was. The only time your family will change its class will be when one buys his way into the upper echelons - then 3 or 4 generations on, you will become upper class.
Recent arrivals simply have no stake in this system.
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More Darling Buds of May to Cider with Rosie imo.
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What about those of us who grew up in Wembley and now live in
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My great grandfathers were both shopkeepers, although one owned a pub as well.
Upper working/lower middle class, in other words.
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But they were foreigners. And bogtrotters, to boot.
How the English would have laughed at the idea that they were of any class!
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I don't know, I really don't
I'd imagine working class people see me as middle class and middle class people see me as a "dreadful common person".
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You were, are and will always remain the scum of the earth.
Finchley. It's Finchley, mate.
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This, of course, is utter nonsense
You're one of the most class bound people on here
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I like this method, I've gone from Oz to Spender.
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If it's any consolation, I'm not middle class, and
I see you as a dreadful common person :thumbup:
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You'll get there one day, Mont. East Finchley is close
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Well one of them was. The other was from Birmingham and a protestant.
The emergence of the Irish Catholic middle classes was certainly recognised by the English post Catholic Emancipation.
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I am assuredly not Middle class. I seriously do come from ''Call the midwife''
My eldest sister had a Midwife from Nonnatus and my Grandmother was in some Dickensian poorhouse due to my Great Grandfathers debts.
The fact I live in comfort does not stop me eating cheese and Crisp sandwiches and dropping my haitches far too often for my wife's liking.
I would say that up until the 80s you were probably correct, but now it has all be blurred by filthy lucre and increased education.
Middle classes are still Doctors, lawyers etc but they can come from all sorts of backgrounds these days, even Poplar
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In all seriousness though, lying about your post code is pretty desperate isn't it?
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Oz as in the prison drama?
With all the bum rape?
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Fearing the grubbiness, stench, indignity and ignorance of the masses has nothing to do with
social class - it's more a result of being a reasoning, sentient human being :shrug:
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Why des Haringay keep asking me to pay them council tax, then?
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That's OK, I think you're gauche, nouveau riche and arriviste.
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They may have been middle class in Ireland.
We're talking about England, the civilised bit this side of Wales.
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It's very middle class
Though the cache that N4 might have nowadays wasn't what it was when it had its own gang signs either.
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Oh dear, now a Protstant is fine....but from Birmingham? I feel for you
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You think?
There's a first.
None taken. :thumbup:
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Surely that makes him Middle class boarding school material?
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Dublin is not Ireland. As many Irish people will queue up to tell you.
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How's that going, are they allowed to be prime minister yet?
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Yes, but you see they're fooling themselves in the hope that the English will think
they're as good as said English.
It doesn't wash. Not for a second.
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Oh I love it when you're in full pass agg mode
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There was. The English used to run the place. Not sure now though
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Wrong Oz.
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I do hope not. Not after what Blair was like.
English catholic converts. Absolutely the most dreadful people in the world. I'd have them all shot.
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Thanks j, new word for me ''arriviste'' and, after meeting Sir C I can say you have it absolutley
wrong if you mean social climber, but fine if you go for go getter.
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I find it hard to disagree with that, even if it is my initial reaction to
That said, what the f**k though, just another example of a messy, unequal and frankly ridiculous constitution that enshrines the worst of our history it is. That's just a small example of the mentalism of it.
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The Kumars to Peep show
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Every day's a school day
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I hardly see a desire to keep the Catholic Church out of the running of the country as being a
negative thing, j. I'd argue it's a pretty major plus in our constitutional history, really.