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Didnt realise our net transfer spend for the past 2 seasons was almost 100m Pounds
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Yeah what a marvellous job Wenger has done to get us into this position
And there's more to come :cloud9:
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Wenger spends 100m and the team gets worse
He's doing it on purpose to prove a point
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Wenger spends money and wins a trophy
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It works everyway
Wenger bought a trophy as his stupid philosohpy
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His philosophy was to get us to a point where we could spend the money to compete for trophies
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When will we compete for the good ones?
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When moaning cnuts like you have all fcucked off to Chelsea, my friend.
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You're making it up as you go along.
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Soon enough, hopefully. With the FFP around and more money available we should be more competitive.
It's difficult to catch up to Chelsea and Man City straight away though, as they've had a decade in their favor compared to us.
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I am just a shit stirrer my friend.
But in general Arsenal are pretty crap lately.
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Well we were competitive in the league last season
Lead the table for much of the season and only tailed off in late March.
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What bits do you suspect are fabricated?
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Really the question is not the money. I maintain that we did not need to spend
or need to spend loads in every position.
But there are clear areas that appear to be ignored by the manager.
Also it would be nice if we could actually have a chance in one of these top 4 competitor matches. rather than the usual result.
The problem seems to be with the players which comes from the top. I thought the FA cup win might add a new confidence. The Community shield looked good too.
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I would imagine that Wenger's philosophy has been to always challenge or compete.
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Every club in the PL except the two that happen to be exclusively financed by billionaires
would say the same.
Do you reckon that's a coincidence?
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Oh absolutely. But I don't see how that contradicts the theory
that he always had at least one eye on us reaching a point where we could compete on a more level playing field, financialistically speaking.
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Makes it even more frustrating. It is a good time to shine.
Our competitors are also pretty poor
But then when you see **** like that against United I find this very frustrating.
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And Southampton.
Classic Arsenal from them last night though. Dominated for 30 minutes without scoring then long ball over the top of their CH's, goalie charges out and misses it (slight variation on our red card trick) and Villa score with their first attack.
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I always laughed at the idea an FA Cup win would be the catalyst
for greater glories.
I really don't have any explanation for our poor start to the season (which is now almost a third gone). What we would all agree on is that we have underperformed relative to our personnel.
So I think we can take some comfort from the fact that we at least have a manager who has accumulated a squad that we all have tremendous belief in. Do we also have belief that he can get more out of them than he currently is managing?
I think we do, yes. But our sense of disappointment is currently too strong to allow for patience, which I understand.
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This is the ironing, though.
After years of doing an incredible job on a shoestring, the long-awaited year 2014 arrives when we finally get loadsa money and we have our worse start since 1982.
I wouldn't put it past the SFC to turn it round though. He usually does. Always does.
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I will moan. I have patience I have no choice. Not much I can do about it. It's just a shame
that it seems like the season is already a dead one and it's the 25th of November.
I am not very confident of tomorrows game. But we'll see. The United game as you said before would have been an excellent result to launch the rest of the season.
I love watching football. And love watching Arsenal but it's a more than a bit frustrating when we play this way. If it was normal I wouldn't be as annoyed but I know we can do better.
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A shoestring?
Come now Ash. Arsenal Football Club does not nor ever has operated on a shoestring.
In relation to your final comment I would 100% agree, we will finish top 4, of that I have no doubt at all. Still won't stop many people from scratching their heads and wondering if it is enough.
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I don't really see the relevance of it being our worst start since 1982
On several occasions during Wenger's years of success (or what is now remembered as) we experienced worse runs of results than we have so far this season.
I think there is certainly good reason to assume we'll turn it around. And remember, we still have an FA Cup to defend. :cloud9:
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He's a novice at this spending game....too use to signing kolo Toure types
he needs to hit up his old mate Sven for spending lessons...
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Relative to the three clubs he was expected to beat to the top spot
it was a shoestring. Not to Swindon Town, obviously.
Spurs used to outspend us every year back when Lewis was laundering his millions.
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What do you mean "enough"?
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I'm really fed up with football at the moment.
It doesn't excite me anymore. It's the same old story every season.
The FA Cup doesn't even matter anymore. 20 years ago when we weren't considered a good team we had the excitement of the FA Cup and League Cup, also the Cup winnners cup runs in 94 & 95. It's the same old thing every season now.
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Right. At bottom, none of us really believes that money has anything
to do with it. I suppose because while it may allow us to cheerfully deride others' achievements, it actually also diminishes many of our own.
No, what we *really* believe in is football.
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Well the belief that not enough was done last summer.
Which in turn means that having left the squad short in certain areas has directly lead us to where we find ourselves today, albeit in a position that is far from being the disaster many make out, and of course is very much a position we can (will) recover from.
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Few decent results will swing that back the other way.
I had a pint on saturday night with a few lads who follow Warrenpoint Town, think how they feel.
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I don't think it is at all certain that our decision to start the season
with the defensive numbers that we have is directly responsible for our poor results so far, any more than Mourinho's decision to do exactly the same is responsible for Chelsea's results.
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I believe in Santa Claus
and all his little helpers in our back four
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At least the rugby was good though tbh I can't actually recall a thing from the England Samoa game
Was only yesterday that I remembered that Martinez had come on for Szczesny
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I had been out on the town the night before with KA.
He makes an annual trip now for the Autumn games.
Can't imagine how **** he must have felt on sunday, saturday was bad enough for me.
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More strikers for Christmas
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Oh please, don't bang that drum again.. we were lucky that our back 4
stayed healthy last season, we then have 3 players leaving and 2 arriving, and what a shock, we are weaker at the back
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He told me he was going over - he must have enjoyed that
better than my trip to Twickers the week before. Must drop him a line
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I believe the children are our future...
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Re: I always laughed at the idea an FA Cup win would be the catalyst
tremendous belief in squad
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