I'm laughing my head off anticipating being here when Wenger turns it round!

It would cost us 20 million to sack him, so it won't happen.

The only possibility is to move him upstairs, which would complicate things for the next manager or for things to deteriorate to the extent that he resigns or leaves by mutual consent.

I suspect half the debate inside the club is whether Wenger should be retained as Director of Football with a head coach like Paul Clement, Remi Garde or Thierry Henry in charge of first team affairs or whether to have a clean break when Wenger goes and bring in a new boss like Klopp, Guardiola or Ancelotti with total control as manager.

did you see the difference yesterday.

2 teams with pretty damn good attacking options
both with injury ravaged makeshift defences
1 team played with organisation, shape and discipline at the back
the other shipped 2 goals to an opponent that had one shot on target.

I'm pissing myself laughing at you.

And neither will Wenger...

:cooper:

Einstein had Wenger's number...
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -

While wenger is here we will not win the league or champions league. He has built a playing style that is predictable and does not stand up to test by the top teams as evidenced by our continuous failure to beat top 4 teams in the last 6 or 7 years.

unless our financial model or football's or both changes.

and we won't win the league either so that just leaves the FA cup and the league cup. The league cup is a lottery because we just play our squad players. So that just leaves the FA cup and although we won it last year both Wigan and Portsmouth have won it as much as us in the last 10 years. So unless we win FA cup 2 or 3 times in next 5 years then we can't say anything has changed.

And frankly just winning a coupe of FA cups would in reality hardly be a great success for a club that has 60,000+ crowds every week, charges the highest prices in the premier league and makes 100s of millions in revenue. Seems to me that Wenger has added very little value on the field as the sum of the parts are not much better than the individual parts.

takeover by Usmanov or a more buccaneering owner than our current one.

If we got a couple of extra players, brushed up on our defence and team spirit we might win a league title with what we have and our modus operandi - we've come close a couple of times in the last few years - but we need to spend lots of money consistently to be competing for the big two.

60,000 crowds are nothing. It's all tv money and commercial deals these days and the best commercial deals are the totally uncommercial up schemed up by dodgy owners.

so what your saying is that the infrastructure and amount of money being paid to players, management etc. plus the prices being charged to the fans is non-commensurate with just competing for the FA cup and that therefore it could be argued that AFC is failing as a model for a successful modern football club.

Unless, of course, the aim isn't football success but rather financial gain at the expense of supporters.

then why are we being so soundly wallet raped by the club?

a couple of players and brush up defence and team spirit

what are you on?

we needed the players in the summer

the team spirit against better sides has been a joke over the past 5 years

it all comes from Wenger

control freak that will be gone by christmas

paid for by a full house.

and just as loudly denied by f**ktards

didn't get what we needed in th summer doesn't negate that it is what we need.

is where we are worth the money we are being asked to pay?.
Which leads into... is what we are paying the manager and players worth where we are?.

I think its reasonable to suggest the answer to both those questions is currently a resounding No.

The board of course will see this as an argument for increasing gate money and paying more to AW and his players.

our very well paid manager isnt doing a very good job at the moment

Good thing Diaby isn't a horse...he would've been turned into glue years ago....

i go every home game

and have done for many years

your akb spouting is absolutely sickening

the crowd have turned and if you turn up Wednesday and open your eyes and ears you will understand that his time has come and gone

so f**k off with the I am their every fortnight ****

Another f**kwit who thinks they are the gospel on arsenal

What are you trying to say ,, I would not?
you really are mentally challenged.
All on here support arsenal
all on here want a change. Except for pecker heads like you
And to mention the conference is just the type of akb we do not need
he mentions 4th as a trophy you mention conference
You really are a halfwit. No ambition and no f**king brain

are not Arsenal. Especially the ones who only turn up when we lose a game.

As for the rest, hey, happy to support the Arsenal forever we've won lots of stuff and will again in the future. Saying you want something without knowing how to get it isn't ambitious, just plain daft.

I have been on and off here for many years
the club and supporters lack ambition
There are too many deluded , that fallen under the wenger spell of bull****

for change no question about it
he bould and the under 21, s guy should all get sacked along with peyton the goalkeeping coach
the club woukd have a list of many that woukd want to run the team
I dont believe there is one manager in the premier league that would have done a worse job than wenger this season
he is a joke
tactically f**king cluelesss
He blames the players ,, but its his fault
where I sit which is a few rows behind the home dugout he is hated
and when we lose on wednesday he will get it again
the fans got rid of terry neill we will do it again with him