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Good luck to the chelsea fans....stay your ground
	
	
		i've seen journalist taking the mikey out of the chelsea fans, and i must say i couldnt understand why their treating a new manager that way, but its now clear to me, their revolting against the whole situation and i admire their stance.
yes abramovich owns the club and spends alot of money, but its not his club, the club belongs to the fans.  when he took over he said chelsea wasnt an investment it was an hobby, something he's doing for fun.  
well abramovich bought a football club to get a kick out of the the whole experience, of 40 thousand ppl creating the atmosphere which surrounds the football experience. without the fans a football match is 22 men chasing a ball, which is pathetic, with the fans you get an event, a meaning, emotions and a kick out of the game.
without the fans, no sponsors would get involved in 22 men chasing a ball in a park, no investors would come in, and no rich owners looking for a kick would buy a football club.   football have always been and always will be about the fans.
thus chelsea fans should be admired not ridiculed, if more fans stand up against the way modern football is going maybe we'll have an impact on the development of football, maybe ticket prices and wages will come down, maybe greedy owners will realise fans will not take their nonsense and will be careful before they step in.  
	 
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You wouldn't call Abramovich "greedy", would you?
	
	
		Unless you mean greedy for trophies in the way that some supporters are?
	 
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no, he's not an investor...its a hobby for him
	
	
		but even him needs reminding the game isnt about him, its about the fans
	 
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Disagree - they don't have the guts to aim their wrath at Abramovich
	
	
		So they aim it all at Rafa - who can be responsible for what, exactly? 
Contrast with Arsenal, where Wenger continues to be teflon-man in the eyes of a sizeable minority of our fans, despite the fact he has filled a power vacuum at the club since Silent Stan's slumbering tenure began.
	 
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admired? Jesus wept.
	
	
		Their so called fans can all f**k off as long as the filthy Russian remains the owner and continues to buy trophies on top of those already bought. Just worship the fecking God I'd tell them.
	 
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We could be reading too much into it; I think they simply don't like Benitez.
	
	
		I don't think it's supposed to be a dig at Roman at all.
	 
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sizeable minority of our Arsenal fans, yesterday's march estimated to be 400-1,000 
	
	
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So you think anyone not on that march wants Wenger to stay on?
	
	
		You are becoming more detached from reality every day. 
	 
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by rejecting rafa this way, its a clear revolt against abramovich imo
	
	
		and wenger filled this power vacuum not because he fought his way to power and gotrid of ppl, because  there is no leadership at the club, if your bosses went MIA and you did everything and whatever you wanted in your job, its hardly your fault is it?
	 
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It's a combination of things. They do hate Benitez, they liked Di Matteo as a player and a coach
	
	
		and it's a dig at Abramovich too.
	 
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I agree that there is shared culpability for the situation at Arsenal
	
	
		but my point is that the board are getting their fair share of  blame, while the manager is not. 
At Chelsea, it is the manager who is getting an unfair share of blame, while the owner - who is totally responsible for creating the present situation - is beyond reproach, and should not be. 
	 
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10000 spare seats and booing of Wenger at the end a minority.
	
	
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filthy russian?  whats so filthy about him?
	
	
		his rich and wants to own a football club, he spends his own money on the team and wants to experience glory and trophies.  ok he's abit to eager in sacking managers but he can hardly be filthy for that.
the fans have every right to ay, we want more calm leadership,  but again, that doesnt make them stupid and it doesnt make him filthy
	 
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Why would they have a dig at RA? It makes no sense.
	
	
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No its a disagreement. Most of the fans love what hes done they just dont agree 
	
	
		with his decision making.
	 
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Whereabouts were you seating? I thought so, you don't really have a clue, I was there
	
	
		Yes there was booing at the team but 2 goals in the last 3 minutes and thousands go off before that in every match anyway
	 
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Most of us thought hed get bored after a couple of years. How wrong could we be. He is
	
	
		there for the long haul and even looking at a new stadium.
	 
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And you think anyone not discussing the matter with you wants Wenger out?
	
	
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For the way he's hastily sacked popular managers like Mourinho, Ancelotti and now Di Matteo
	
	
		But it's his ball they're playing with and he can take it away at any time.
Fans still get attached to some of these managers though and see it as unjust.
But they can hardly demand to sack the board or a change of owner in this instance.
	 
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I agree with you there, but there's always got to be a fall guy, even
	
	
		when things are going well and you've just won the European Cup. Often especially then.
Benitez has merely walked straight into the role.
	 
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I was down the M4 but the BBC said around 10000 seats were unsold. And the booing  was blatant.. And
	
	
		and far as only 2 late goals goes, well, that is really weak. 
	 
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Except, If Rafa had won his first three fixtures 3-0, the hue and cry would have been considerably 
	
	
		muted.
Just in the same way ours will, if Wenger wins the next four on the spin . 
	 
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 I thought so, no booing during the game at all, just at the end and rightly so - as for the 
 
	
	
		10,000 fans that is absolute nonsense
	 
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They don't like Benitez. But they may be overdoing these protests. I mean George had an easier ride
	
	
		at Tottenham than Benitez is having here with the fans!
Doesn't help he's had a terrible start either, but possible in different circumstances he may have got them onside.
	 
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our board/owner do not get their fair share of the blame
	
	
		its not before yesterdays black scarf movement that we've had ppl openly blaming them.
but we've had criticism of wenger for a while, the booing of him at villa,  the booing of him against manu at hme last season....all through out last season ppl sang spend some f.cking money to wenger, what money does he own?
clubs are directed from the top, its not a coincidence that the greatest tactical revolutionary in modern football was found in milan, in late 80s, sachi, his successor, capello who was the opposite of him was equally as successful. its no fluke they had some of the best players in modern time either. the drive from berlusconi/galiani made that happen.
look at them today struggle with allegri, the drive and ambition is no longer there, a mere manager cannot change the direction of a club.
its not a coincidence both wenger and graham had such a great time at arsenal, under david dein....we're now back to the times pre dein...a manager cannot change direction of the club, 
 
	 
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The fans are moaning against Benitez. Didn't see many calling for Roman's head.
	
	
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No just silence and moaning till the inevitable happened. 

 
	
	
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Right. But they also know that he could be fired tomorrow if Roman gets out
	
	
		of bed on the wrong foot.
That's not normally the case at any club. Most managers are given a period of time.
	 
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Prove that you are talking sh*t, match attendance on BBC ==> Att: 60,098
	
	
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i know chelsea have benefited from him...and they have every right to revolt abit to
	
	
		demand more calmness from him and stop sacking managers, they dont need to take everything.
but he's been good to them, even if he leaves today, he gave them a beautiful decade, but looks like he's going no where
	 
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Difference at Spurs was that they were shite and despite everything, George just
	
	
		might have been able to change that, their fans thought.
Chelsea, on the other hand, are the champions of Europe; they are fat right now so they can say what they like.
	 
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they definitely  dont want roman out, but they want him to stop sacking ppl, which is fair
	
	
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I think they'd love him to sack Benitez right now, to be fair.
	
	
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Given how trigger happy Roman is, surely Benitez won't last long anyway unless results pick up
	
	
		only currently manager til the end of the season, so no fat pay off involved.
Only thing that might stop him is a show of defiance to the protesting fans,but not sure that's his way.
	 
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Im saying what I heard.
	
	
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By sacking them all though theyve won more than United and won the CL. Rafa was a 
	
	
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Re: Good luck to the chelsea fans....stay your ground
	
	
		Chelsea fans have been unbearable since the russian went there. They are quite happy to celebrate all the success his dirty money has bought them. The flip side is the club does not belong them them, its his toy. Had they had raised concerns previously then perhaps they'd have more sympathy from other fans.
You dance with the devil you play to his tune!
	 
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Sacking managers is normal, everyday business for Europe's elite, in any case.