A little while ago a picture of some women from Sweden's "feminist government"

went viral for mocking one of Trumps photos with all men standing around him signing an EO.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3u4ST1WQAAkaTi.jpg

Here's some more women from the "feminist government" of Sweden in Iran to sign trade deals :hehe:

https://www.unwatch.org/wp-content/u...ame-hi-red.jpg

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Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige

went viral for mocking one of Trumps photos with all men standing around him signing an EO.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3u4ST1WQAAkaTi.jpg

Here's some more women from the "feminist government" of Sweden in Iran to sign trade deals :hehe:

https://www.unwatch.org/wp-content/u...ame-hi-red.jpg

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Yes. Amazing what undignified, demeaning and hypocritical shît lefties will do in order to virtue signal. Also, does the entire cabinet have to go everywhere together?

Our Prime Minister comes out of this rather well by comparison.

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Originally Posted by Burney

Yes. Amazing what undignified, demeaning and hypocritical shît lefties will do in order to virtue signal. Also, does the entire cabinet have to go everywhere together?

Our Prime Minister comes out of this rather well by comparison.

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It's great. Little more than a week after the first photo and the line "we're a feminist government and this photo shows that". :clap:

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Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige

It's great. Little more than a week after the first photo and the line "we're a feminist government and this photo shows that". :clap:

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They would say that positive discrimination is part of the corrective process required to bring an end to institutionalised sexism in society.

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It's great. Little more than a week after the first photo and the line "we're a feminist government and this photo shows that". :clap:

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Seriously, though, the Swedish establishment does seem to be even madder than the Germans in its desire to force Islamic culture on its people. With the Germans at least you can understand that they're trying to make up for murdering tens of millions of people and trying to enslave the whole of Europe, but what drives the Swedes in this lunacy?

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Seriously, though, the Swedish establishment does seem to be even madder than the Germans in its desire to force Islamic culture on its people. With the Germans at least you can understand that they're trying to make up for murdering tens of millions of people and trying to enslave the whole of Europe, but what drives the Swedes in this lunacy?

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Post-Abba guilt?

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Seriously, though, the Swedish establishment does seem to be even madder than the Germans in its desire to force Islamic culture on its people. With the Germans at least you can understand that they're trying to make up for murdering tens of millions of people and trying to enslave the whole of Europe, but what drives the Swedes in this lunacy?

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The trouble with the current government is they're in coalition with the Greens. That's where all the feminist *******s comes from (the woman in the photo signing the paper is their leader and deputy PM). Traditionally the social democrats have been quite strict on immigration but the previous government was the moderates and they relaxed immigration policy. The current bunch left it as is until they realised they had just let 300,000 refugees into a country of 10,000,000 people within the space of 3 years. They're quite strict on immigration now but you still get them turning a blind eye to anything remotely anti-immigrant/Islam. For example, the feminists are quick to let you know rape is a man problem when it's pointed out to them that men from MENA countries are way overrepresented when it comes to rape convictions, especially gang rapes.

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Seriously, though, the Swedish establishment does seem to be even madder than the Germans in its desire to force Islamic culture on its people. With the Germans at least you can understand that they're trying to make up for murdering tens of millions of people and trying to enslave the whole of Europe, but what drives the Swedes in this lunacy?

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Are we having Islamic culture forced upon us here? I wished they'd hurry up - might actually be able to have a shop open on a Sunday

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Are we having Islamic culture forced upon us here? I wished they'd hurry up - might actually be able to have a shop open on a Sunday

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Inshallah.

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Are we having Islamic culture forced upon us here? I wished they'd hurry up - might actually be able to have a shop open on a Sunday

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And the pubs?

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And the pubs?

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The pubs will always be open. They're not that stupid, a. I've probably never been drunker* than after a night out in Dubai and the Sultan of Oman has a very sensible attitude to alcohol - they've even got an Irish pub in the airport



*as drunk many times

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Originally Posted by Burney

Yes. Amazing what undignified, demeaning and hypocritical shît lefties will do in order to virtue signal. Also, does the entire cabinet have to go everywhere together?

Our Prime Minister comes out of this rather well by comparison.

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Aren't they just covering up their hair because that is consistent with the local customs of the country in which they are present? I'm pretty sure they aren't the first to do so and I'm not sure I see how that is inconsistent with their feminist sensibilities? Sunbathing topless is commonplace in certain Scandinavian countries but is not really acceptable here in the UK. Would a Swedish woman who left her top on in the Witterings be accused of the same thing?

Nor, for that matter, am I convinced it has anything to do with Islam. As far as I understand it, Islam only mentions that women should dress modestly, the rest of the dress restrictions are entirely cultural and have very little to do with religion.

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Aren't they just covering up their hair because that is consistent with the local customs of the country in which they are present? I'm pretty sure they aren't the first to do so and I'm not sure I see how that is inconsistent with their feminist sensibilities? Sunbathing topless is commonplace in certain Scandinavian countries but is not really acceptable here in the UK. Would a Swedish woman who left her top on in the Witterings be accused of the same thing?

Nor, for that matter, am I convinced it has anything to do with Islam. As far as I understand it, Islam only mentions that women should dress modestly, the rest of the dress restrictions are entirely cultural and have very little to do with religion.

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Sorry, just to clarify here, you are suggesting that the prevalence of head scarves/coverings in Iran has nothing to do with Islam?

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Sorry, just to clarify here, you are suggesting that the prevalence of head scarves/coverings in Iran has nothing to do with Islam?

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In the Arab world generally, I think head coverings are driven by historical/cultural reasons more than religious ones. Does it have nothing to do with Islam? No, I'm sure there is some relationship. But it isn't explicitly required because of Islam, I think.

As an example, if you have ever seen a traditional Arabic family in Dubai you will notice that the men are almost as covered as the women. Most Arabic women show only their faces in black robes, whereas the men wear white robes with a head dress that covers almost as much of the head as the women's does. The robes I expect have something to do with it being 50C in summer, Islam less so.

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In the Arab world generally, I think head coverings are driven by historical/cultural reasons more than religious ones. Does it have nothing to do with Islam? No, I'm sure there is some relationship. But it isn't explicitly required because of Islam, I think.

As an example, if you have ever seen a traditional Arabic family in Dubai you will notice that the men are almost as covered as the women. Most Arabic women show only their faces in black robes, whereas the men wear white robes with a head dress that covers almost as much of the head as the women's does. The robes I expect have something to do with it being 50C in summer, Islam less so.

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This is how women dressed in Iran in the 1970s.

Could you explain to me exactly when the drastic climate change occurred which caused these women to rush for the chador?

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In the Arab world generally, I think head coverings are driven by historical/cultural reasons more than religious ones. Does it have nothing to do with Islam? No, I'm sure there is some relationship. But it isn't explicitly required because of Islam, I think.

As an example, if you have ever seen a traditional Arabic family in Dubai you will notice that the men are almost as covered as the women. Most Arabic women show only their faces in black robes, whereas the men wear white robes with a head dress that covers almost as much of the head as the women's does. The robes I expect have something to do with it being 50C in summer, Islam less so.

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This is what we do know. Western feminists cry 'sexism' at even the merest hint of attitudes, behaviours or objects/items of clothing that it is felt are imposed upon women due to a belief that women should act or dress with modesty. If a man in the west suggests women should be careful about dressing too provocatively because they might get hassled by blokes in the street, they are told they are contributing to 'rape culture'

Whether religious or cultural in origins, everyone, even you, would acknowledge that many women across the Muslim world have head/body coverings imposed upon them due to a belief in the imperative for women to act and dress modestly.

And yet so-called feminists jump at the chance to wear one in order to show their "solidarity" with women.

It is a f*cking joke.

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This is how women dressed in Iran in the 1970s.

Could you explain to me exactly when the drastic climate change occurred which caused these women to rush for the chador?

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3,1,4,2

Anyway, that's clearly an example of Shah Here law

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This is how women dressed in Iran in the 1970s.

Could you explain to me exactly when the drastic climate change occurred which caused these women to rush for the chador?

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3, 1, 2, 4.

Number 3 would be giving it the Allan Akbar's ("God you're great") once I've finished with her, imo.

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3,1,4,2

Anyway, that's clearly an example of Shah Here law

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2 might be a man, mate.

I liked the Shah. He had a kind face.

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2 might be a man, mate.

I liked the Shah. He had a kind face.

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Goering had a kind face too. Appearances can be deceptive.

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3, and I can't see any of the others. 3 is stunning.

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Goering had a kind face too. Appearances can be deceptive.

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Goering was alright. Certainly no nazi. He was a decent pilot and a lover of food, women and drugs who happened to be an opportunist.

Now Goebbels. He didn't have a nice face.

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3, and I can't see any of the others. 3 is stunning.

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One wonders whether she survived the revolution, a. By now she may be an old crone living in the medieval ****pit that is Tehran.

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Goering was alright. Certainly no nazi. He was a decent pilot and a lover of food, women and drugs who happened to be an opportunist.

Now Goebbels. He didn't have a nice face.

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Ahem, that'll be Paul Joseph Goebbels to you, sir.

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Ahem, that'll be Paul Joseph Goebbels to you, sir.

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Any relation?

Now that would be a story to take to The Sunday Times. '"Goebbels Was A Jew" claims Finchley Man.'

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This is how women dressed in Iran in the 1970s.

Could you explain to me exactly when the drastic climate change occurred which caused these women to rush for the chador?

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You're certain that there weren't any women in Iran in the 70s that wore some form of head covering? Really?

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You're certain that there weren't any women in Iran in the 70s that wore some form of head covering? Really?

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I'm sure there were some who wore some sort of head covering, as a result of religious and cultural beliefs. What I'd like to know is why, nowadays, it would be inconceivable to dress as those young ladies did in the 70s, and why 'some sort of head covering' (a mealy-mouthed, mendacious phrase, by the way) is essential in modern day Iran. I'm disagreeing with your claim that it's to do with the temperature in summer.

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This is what we do know. Western feminists cry 'sexism' at even the merest hint of attitudes, behaviours or objects/items of clothing that it is felt are imposed upon women due to a belief that women should act or dress with modesty. If a man in the west suggests women should be careful about dressing too provocatively because they might get hassled by blokes in the street, they are told they are contributing to 'rape culture'

Whether religious or cultural in origins, everyone, even you, would acknowledge that many women across the Muslim world have head/body coverings imposed upon them due to a belief in the imperative for women to act and dress modestly.

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Yes, I agree with that. My point was that I think the imposition is based more on cultural grounds than religious grounds. I've always suspected that Muslim women cover up largely because historically their countries have been violent, uncivilized places where attractive women are a pretty good target.

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Any relation?

Now that would be a story to take to The Sunday Times. '"Goebbels Was A Jew" claims Finchley Man.'

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With with Goebbels and PJ Watson, I can't help feeling leeetle bit tainted by association :-(

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Yes, I agree with that. My point was that I think the imposition is based more on cultural grounds than religious grounds. I've always suspected that Muslim women cover up largely because historically their countries have been violent, uncivilized places where attractive women are a pretty good target.

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They cover up because if they don't, the religious police will whip them.

Fúcking hell, do you live in a box, completely isolated from any means of educating yourself?

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Yes, I agree with that. My point was that I think the imposition is based more on cultural grounds than religious grounds. I've always suspected that Muslim women cover up largely because historically their countries have been violent, uncivilized places where attractive women are a pretty good target.

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I think you're staggeringly naive.

But here's what we also know. If every Muslim in the world woke up one morning with the realisation that their holy book that preaches female modesty is man-made bull****, then after a few years of of guilt-free lusting and w*nking over exposed female ankles, the 'cultural' imperative for women to dress modestly would disappear.

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They cover up because if they don't, the religious police will whip them.

Fúcking hell, do you live in a box, completely isolated from any means of educating yourself?

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In Iran, you mean? Or more specifically in Tehran? Yes, I would expect the majority of women inn Tehran wear a head dress because they are afraid not to. Some will do it because they prefer it, of course. Outside of the large cities I expect they do so because their families have done so for generations.

Outside of Iran there will also be a variety of motivations. In the UAE, as an example, where almost a third of government representatives are women, many do not and those that do probably do so out of choice.

It's a big, complex world, Charles.

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In Iran, you mean? Or more specifically in Tehran? Yes, I would expect the majority of women inn Tehran wear a head dress because they are afraid not to. Some will do it because they prefer it, of course. Outside of the large cities I expect they do so because their families have done so for generations.

Outside of Iran there will also be a variety of motivations. In the UAE, as an example, where almost a third of government representatives are women, many do not and those that do probably do so out of choice.

It's a big, complex world, Charles.

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Somalia, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and the numerous other places where women have no choice but to conform to a religiously-mandated dress code; this is a matter of Islam, not latitude.

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I think you're staggeringly naive.

But here's what we also know. If every Muslim in the world woke up one morning with the realisation that their holy book that preaches female modesty is man-made bull****, then after a few years of of guilt-free lusting and w*nking over exposed female ankles, the 'cultural' imperative for women to dress modestly would disappear.

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Below is a picture of Yazidis women. Yazidis are not Muslims, Monty, but they are from the Middle East. Notice anything about the way they dress?

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Below is a picture of Yazidis women. Yazidis are not Muslims, Monty, but they are from the Middle East. Notice anything about the way they dress?

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Jesus - you are not making this easy

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Below is a picture of Yazidis women. Yazidis are not Muslims, Monty, but they are from the Middle East. Notice anything about the way they dress?

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Below is a picture of some women who live at the same latitude as Riyadh. Do you notice anything about the way they dress?

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Below is a picture of Yazidis women. Yazidis are not Muslims, Monty, but they are from the Middle East. Notice anything about the way they dress?

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Yes, and there is a code of modesty for women in Orthodox Judaism too. And I'm sure you'd see feminists gleefully wrapping themselves in the respective clothing were they to visit somewhere like Mea She'arim in Jerusalem where wearing head scarves is a "local custom" for women.

And they would be hypocritical c*nts for doing so. As my feminist girlfriend was when she wore one during our visit.

What is your point?

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3,1,4,2

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3 is rather saucy-looking, I must say *twirlsmoustache*

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2 might be a man, mate.

I liked the Shah. He had a kind face.

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2 looks like Shami Chakrabarti. :-(

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3 is rather saucy-looking, I must say *twirlsmoustache*

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If you need any extra stimulation, I think I can see her knickers hanging on the washing line.