I want to break three.......
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I want to break three.......
Pah! You both need to listen more, and more carefully.
Hammer to Fall is excellent. Radio Ga-Ga is genius. Somebody to Love not far off. You never sang We Will Rock You p1ssed out of your heads with a group of friends in your youth? Not sure how someone could watch them at Wembley in 85 and not see greatness.
Queen is ace.
To be fair, Somebody to Love is a good song. But Radio Ga Ga, We will Rock You.... that is exactly why I am not keen. Awful, awful songs. And no, I have definitely never sung it with my mates! Yeah, they were great at Wembley but that sort of stuff is for other people, not for me.
For example, Freddie is amazing, and I can see that. But give me a voice like Paul Rodgers over that any day of the week.
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I suppose my measure is, would I listen to it now?
I mean, I do like some other 80s tunes, but I would normally skip past the 80s music channels on the TV.
I saw James live (Gold Mother tour?), pretty good.
I saw REM live (Green tour), **** awful. Surprising.
Actually I didn't start really enjoying Queen until later in life. And Radio Ga Ga is just a great song, if you don't like it I suspect you have no joy in your life. And let's be honest, Peter, that isn't the first time you have heard that accusation. :-)
Late 70s and early 80s was my Rolling Stones/Beatles/Zeppelin/Pink Floyd/Who era. There was a point when I owned Zeppelin 1-4, House of the Holy, Physical Graffiti and the one with All My Love on it. And about that time I thought that Wish You Were Here was the greatest song and album of all time.
All these years later, and using IUFG's standard, I still listen to the Stones regularly, the Beatles occasionally and I have since discovered Queen :-) I can't remember the last time I listened to Zeppelin, Who or Floyd.
I grew up, you see :-)
No, I have heard that accusation many times. Usually from rather silly people who want to prove an unprovable point. Not that I am accusing you of anything of that sort, of course :-)
I grew up plagued by The Who and didn't like them for a long time as a result. I do now. I grew up.
There are plenty of things I don't really listen to very often these days (including Zeppelin and The Smiths) but that is not to do with growing up or changing my mind. It is more that I played them to death for years and so now I only pay the occasional visit.
I've never managed to get to grips with Floyd. I find them quite irritating.
Radio Ga Ga is an awful song. Sorry, but it is.
I think you have heard that accusation many times, Peter, because you quite like playing the 'I'm a miserable f*cker' character. And to be honest, you play it well :-)
We will have to agree to disagree on Radio Ga Ga, it is a sublimely beautiful song that feels me with joy each and every time I hear it. It's one of those songs that is so good that many people dislike it just because so many people like it, for no other reason. In my experience those sorts of people loved The Smiths, almost without exception.
I played the Stones to death as a teenager and through my university years. But I still love them and listen to them and discover new things in their songs. As an example, my favourite Stones song has continually changed over the years. From Sympathy for the Devil to Brown Sugar to the little know Memory Motel to my current favourite, Tumbling Dice.
Boogie with Stu off Physical Graffiti, I could still listen to that.
Misery is in the eye of the beholder. Those who find Leonard Cohen or The Smiths depressing are, in my opinion, miserable sods. Or they are simply not listening.
You can't really play The Stones to death because you listen to it with your hips, not just your ears. Tumbling Dice isn't going to get old.... or grow up. And it does fill me with joy every time I hear it :-) So does Moonlight Mile. And Rocks Off. Winter. Monkey Man. Sway. The list goes on.......
The Beatles.... that is a whole other discussion. The genius there is songwriting and production. I could never get bored of Sgt Pepper.
Oh Peter, there we go again - disagreeing.
Pepper is grossly overrated, I'd take the White Album every time.
She's Leaving Home and When I'm 64 are just utter McCartney dross. Or to summarise better, the first three songs are great and after that you get mostly average songs, or rubbish, until Day in the Life, which is also overrated.
go to youtube and search for a video of someone playing Keith's guitar line from Tumbling Dice. There are a few. You don't need the vocals, bass or drum, just that guitar line. Keith is a genius.
I still listen to Floyd, Who, Beatles.
Early Queen is the best (Prophet's Song etc). Genesis and Pink Floyd is where it's at. The Beatles are mostly overrated bar a handful of brilliant songs. Paul is responsible for the worst Christmas song of all time.
Total disrespect for the 80s here. Genius decade. 60s & 70s founded bands coming into their stride combined with the exciting ascension of new drum machines and synths. A level of creativity that can only be seen at the experimentation stage of figuring out all this new hardware.There's a high level of analogue warmth to 80s records that hasn't been seen since.
WES is doing his usual. Trying to lock me into arguing over one song when the real issue is him trashing pretty much the entire album.
Do I think When I'm 64 is an amazing song? No. But I am not going bother arguing over the better of two bad songs. It would be like discussing the difference between **** and ****e.
And let's face it, if the chap thinks A Day in the Life isn't any good then our reference points are too far apart. We may as well stick to arguing about whether Arsenal are going to win the league :-)
Except that I didn’t trash pretty much the entire album, I said the first three songs were great and a lot of the rest was very average. And I didn’t say A Day in the Life wasn’t any good I said it was overrated.
Other than that your analysis is spot on Peter :thumbup: