Wenger out :-(
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Wenger out :-(
It's the sadly predictable end to it all that I find depressing. The stupid c unt had a shot at some departing credibility with that last FA Cup win, but no, no, the plank had to push for another two years.
Now the biggest question is whether or not he can see out the season.
Bring Ancelloti in now. Give him a head start in the rebuilding job and the chance to clear out the deadwood b4 next season
No chance P. The power brokers at the club cannot ignore a full scale fan revolt. Declining attendance figures, Spurs on the up etc.
In pure human terms, could Wenger seriously absorb a vociferous level of abuse over a sustained period ? It's not as if he can play the top 4 card any longer and with Sanchez gone and Ozil in deliberation, we're now left, for the first time in recent memory, with a very average group of players.
Lacazette going completely backwards and looking like he’d be more suited to playing at Stoke tells you all you need to know about Wenger getting the most out of the team. He’s completely abysmal right now.
I disagree, we don't need change just for the sake of it, we need change because the manager is no longer competent.
I'm also loving the idea that we should buy Malcolm only if we sell Sanchez. If we like Malcolm we should just f*cking buy him. Given that we made 20mil in the summer and just sold Coq for 12mil that would mean a net outlay over two windows of a massive 13mil or so.
Imagine that, one of the ten richest clubs spending 13mil over two windows. Obscene. :hehe:
A truly sorry state of affairs.
The team manager going in front of cameras and being honest enough to say he has no idea what is going on meanwhile on the actual football side it appears he has no idea what is going on.
The clusterfúck of last summer with Sanchez, the basic scenario where two world class players are even allowed to be in this contract situation, gross mismanagement of the football club (not team, no idea who is ultimately responsible here).
Walcott running around on a sponsored offside. Christ if we can genuinely get £20m for him what is the delay, unless of course he is too settled in the easy life and won’t move in which case we’re fúcked.
Watching young players like Holding and other fundamentally good footballers like Xhaka and especially Lacazette just draining in confidence in front of our eyes.
As Wes pointed out, we like Malcolm and are willing to pay 40m for the lad, but only if Sanchez goes, otherwise we’ll muddle on with bang average shít****s like Welbeck and Iwobi, both of who have a role to play but neither of whom should ever be first 11.
Selling to United, not ideal of course though some are looking on it as the footballing equivalent of a person shítting in their cupped hand. Sell the wee fúcker if they are the highest bidder, take Mkytarian if they are genuinely offering him, screw them for everything we can get. Then take Malcom also but ask him to jazz up his name.
And yes, in summary … Wenger out!
I can’t believe the above is still in debate.
My point is that even the argument that there isn't anyone better available right now no longer stands because - however it's happened - Wenger's continuation in post (N.B. not the man himself) is now toxic. Virtually anyone would be better as manager for the club at the moment.
Someone from the press should ask him if there any threshold of performance and failure at which he would resign. Is there any threshold at which 'honouring' his contract is not in the best interests of the football club? Could another manager get more out of these players?
When I heard the rumour that Ancelotti was available at the end of the season I thought 'yes, please'. Right now I'd like him to start tomorrow.
I'd still prefer a younger manager who we think might lead the club for the next 10+ years but as Burney points out, pretty much anyone would be an improvement at this point so if we don't have our eye on someone like Arteta (as an example) Carlo would do just fine for now.
I'm also assuming that this chap from Barca is effectively our director of football now and once SFC does the right thing and p1sses off, the new chap will start running the recruitment process. We badly need someone that can look objectively at the players we have and move out those not deemed good enough while scouring the world (as opposed to France) for the players we need.
Thing is, it's not an ideological question on which one has to take sides anymore. It's a purely pragmatic consideration. Wenger set CL qualification as the minimum benchmark by which to judge him and we finished outside the top 4 last season. We are now on course to finish outside the top 4 again, so by his own definition he is failing in his role. What alternative is there but to change managers?
This is why I was wondering if he is considering his position, or how bad it would have to get for him to do so. His recent comments about going nowhere in the summer were not those of a man at home to Mr Humility. However arrogant Mourinho is, at least he is aware of his own mortality, p45-istically. Arsene seemingly feels accountable to no-one.
I think it's a little contrived to look back at the period since 2004 and see it as a process of managed decline. It certainly didn't always feel that way. With the advantage of hindsight, I suppose one could say that the point at which it was really all over was after we sold Fabregas and van Persie in successive seasons. That was the final acknowledgement that Wenger's attempt to build a third great side on the cheap had failed.
However, we were buoyed up by finishing paying for the stadium and the promised riches and influx of top players, etc and hoped for the best, so him staying on for that was understandable.
Oh, I see. I'd forgotten that. In fairness, it would have seemed unbelievably harsh to get rid of Wenger in 2012/13 when he'd just got us through a hugely difficult financial situation while qualifying for the CL every year, etc. However, those are the sort of harsh decisions that truly ambitious clubs take when they believe someone has taken them as far as they can.