by Ben Stokes doing an impression of Harvey Price. :rolleyes:
http://news.sky.com/story/video-emer...arvey-11058367
There is absolutely no way he's going to Australia, is there? :-(
by Ben Stokes doing an impression of Harvey Price. :rolleyes:
http://news.sky.com/story/video-emer...arvey-11058367
There is absolutely no way he's going to Australia, is there? :-(
I would argue his impression of her is more offensive. I would also argue that he isn't taking the piss out of the kid's disability, more the fact that he said **** on telly which, of course, is pretty funny.
So now we will have a stream of arseholes parading up and down about values and deploring the lad for a joke made in a pub. He needs to wheel out these benders that he was defending in the brawl so he can claim knock for knock with the equality police.
No, he isn't going to Australia. We are utterly, utterly ****ed (we possibly were anyway).
As SW says, if he was a foootballer he would be given even more grief than he has so far.
Do you think he should be allowed to go on the Ashes tour after this?
So you think knocking some bloke out while he was backing away is "normal" behaviour???
If it wasn't an England player and we were about to play the Ashes you wouldn't be getting your knickers in a twist
I doubt he would, actually. If he were a footballer, it would be expected and a bit meh. It's precisely because he's a cricketer that this is unusual.
I think he should be allowed to go on the Ashes tour because he hasn't actually been convicted of anything yet and because - even if he is - it's not actually that big a deal. I wouldn't say knocking people out is 'normal', but if every bloke who as a young man has got pïssed and punched someone were to be convicted for it and have their professional life blighted for it, we'd have an awful lot of criminal records knocking about. Getting into fights isn't particularly clever or dignified, but it happens, has always happened and will always happen. Throwing our hands up in horror about this one instance of something you can see in any town centre on a Friday night is just silly.
Can we just get real for a moment. If this were england's best footballer and the competition coming up was a World Cup there is no ****ing way the player would end up missing it over this incident. A footballer would be playing for his club this weekend.
I dont like him smacking the geezer when he was backing away but.....it appears this chap was threatening some gay men, wielded a bottle and there are also separate reports of them trying to start fights elsewhere earlier in the night.
If all of that is true, and I stress IF, then the chap deserved a kicking and can consider himself fortunate it wasnt a lot worse.
I have little sympathy for him. Stokes's needs to appreciate he cant get himself in these situations and needs to grow up. But the guy on the floor worthy facial injuries- **** him.
No, his professional life will not be blighted, will it. He's got pots of money already and no-one has suggested he be hounded from the game forever, have they. He can still play IPL, I suppose, or do some punditing.
Damn silly business though, and a shame, but representing your country, in any capacity, is a privilege, not a right.
I think Pokster already did that - are you calling him a ****?
Just seen the same argument re Delle Alli and the ban for using the finger. Now of course he was naughty and deserved a slap on the wrist but if people see him as a role model for their children they are ****s of the highest order
Exactly. The problem with seeing these people as role models is quite obviously that they aren't. Or, at the very least, they are very, very bad ones. Who decided that if you want to be a professional footballer you also have to be a great role model for kids? What if you are a brilliant footballer but a right ****?
I was given good and bad examples as a kid and encouraged to identify the difference. Surely that isn't rocket science.
Just out of interest, the Willie Young tackle in the 1980 Cup Final. My dad lectured me for ages on how it wasnt the right thing to do and I simply wouldn't accept it. I was 16 by the time he admitted that of course it was the right thing to do but he didnt want to tell me that as a kid.
No, the trouble here is yous are all looking at the thing from the homo, women's lib angle. You know, "Who cares if he discovered a cure for cancer; last week, he didn't separate his rubbish into the correct containers as provided!"
He's got a job he loves and that he's very good at, and he makes millions. Nobody should want or need any more of a role model than that.
Don't quite agree. First of all, they're only borderline adults. They're guys who are like 20-23. They're therefore in a position of being the big brother vis a vis kids. And because football is a game played in childhood, they represent the successful fulfillment of a childhood dream. Therefore, with all that being said, hold it together. They should acknowledge this role and be subject to fines if they act stupid. If you're just a guy of that age walking around London, fine, do what you want.
No, they only forfeit, or risk, future earnings, not their livelihoods. Same as anybody else.
Whether you anchor the batting for England or you're a transgender who wants to join the CAG, representing your country is a privilege, and not a right. Thousands of people are rejected or overlooked for their preferred role all the time, and for many different reasons.
If by "we", you mean cricket lovers, England supporters, then yes, I agree. However, most of the people that pay Stokes' wages couldn't give a stuff about England. Or probably even cricket. Unfortunately, and unforgivably, it is them he has fallen foul of. He who pays the piper and a' that.