But they've been unfunnily rude and shit to a whole host of other people
but presumably you don't mind that because those other people don't award themselves the 'right' to take hysterical offence to the point of committing mass murder.
I was barely aware of them before the whole thing happened tbh
I wouldve liked it to be good, I really would. It would have made the whole thing a lot easier to get behind. As it was it felt like I was like defending Mac, the rarely funny but often racist Daily Mail cartoonist.
But if we don't defend the freedoms of people we disagree with, we don't defend freedom at all.
In fairness, even though they appeared to be asking for it,
I'm not sure the CH lads actually, seriously believed they were actually, seriously in imminent danger of being a,s AKed at their desks.
A small distinction but a crucial one, I feel.
Its worth lay not in its subtlety or its hilarity, but in its very existence.
South Park is infinitely funnier, cleverer and more subversive, but ultimately (for whatever reasons) lacked the courage of its convictions. Charlie Hebdo and the Danish cartoon fella were ****e, but they were there when 'better' satirists or humorists were being cowed into submission, so you saying they were **** satire is utterly beside the point. They made a political stand where others did not dare to do so. They drew a line in the sand and died by it. So '****' or not, 'funny' or not, 'crass' just doesn't matter.
Pretending we all have the right to say something that offends muslims, but never doing it because we're afraid is just a cowardly cop out. We don't actually have that right because we've abnegated it through non-use. Only those who dare to insist upon using that right make it real maintain it. Charlie Hebdo did and whether we like the way they did is immaterial.
Wasn’t there a previous Koran-inspired attempt on their lives?
Probably worth mentioning that it’s also eminently possible to offend muslims by not saying anything
at all. Sometimes not being muslim is enough. Or indeed not being muslim enough, for that matter.
That's it though, I do agree that they should be able to say that
My main issues is that, having decided they were going to do something that really needed to be funny if it was going to work, though "f**k it, this'll do" and put something out that was ****.
The documentary I watched recently put it across well, it had Palin, Chapman and Cleese really putting themselves through the ringer to make sure that Brian was funny, or it couldve all gone horribly wrong for them.
I just wish these guys had put a few extra hours in on this one, and I suppose in retrospect so do they.
I rather think you're right, there was.
Well no, it was South Park's network that lacked the balls there
This comes mostly down to the issue of how much it costs to make 22mins of very well animated show in a three week window (they have to make it topical) versus a cartoon magazine.
Satire *needs* to be funny, and therefore good, to really work. Which is why it's harder than most other comedy, it's the duality, the danger.
It really matters, precisely for these reasons, whether it's funny or not. It's crucial that it is.
