We’re not really talking about religion.
We’re talking about fanatical lunatic mad**** killers.
Religion is often an excuse which people will use to attach to wars and conflict. Sectarianism in Northern Ireland is pinned on religion but in reality it is not really based on the fundamental differences between the two religious ethos, us being good and them being bad.
I don't know how to break it to you, but monty isn't actually David Cameron.
You've got yourself confused, now.
That's a shame, I was going to ask him about his crooked dad and the secret bank accounts
It's not a question of 'better', it's a question of why liberal historiography always begins at the
point where you can blame whitey and never goes back any further for its explanations.
Also, your tale of the poor oppressed Indians who were dragged over here to be oppressed further is rather f**ked by the fact that people of Indian Hindu extraction represent one of the most successful immigrant groups ever to have come to this country, while sub-continental muslims are still largely rat poor and ill-educated. This does suggest there's something seriously f**king wrong with their culture that has nothing to do with their 'oppression' by us.
There is a crucial distinction between me saying that all Muslims are accountable for their actions
(which is what I actually said) and actually holding them to account (which is what you prefer to think I said).
All I am actually doing is advocating that we fully acknowledge the nature of the problem, so that we can at least reach a point where we are allowed to say that a moderate, law-abiding Muslim who believes that the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists were wrong to depict Muhammed *is* part of the problem, without being called a bigot.
Neatly swerving of the point, there.
See, I think it mustve been the use of the word 'implicate'
Because that sort of points to being involved in a crime, which then presumably would lead them to at least in some way be worthy of censure.
Taking my devil's advocate/the whole of reasonable society mantle off for just a moment and speaking in a personal sense. Do I think the CH guys should have been able to depict mohammed? Yes. Do I think they should have? No.
Not sure where I stand in your moral spectrum there. Perhaps I've now been implicated and should be judged with all the muslims.
It was less of a diversion than yours, in fairness
And I think it also goes to show how we treat people differently based on their worth to us.
These muslims, prolific funders of the worst terror groups, perpetrating a violent war against a neighbouring country using arms we sold them and home to the vast majority of the 911 bombers get trained by our armed forces, sold more weapons and bunged more bribes.
We dont know what we're arguing for or against here.
The Saudis are revolting c**ts with whom we very unfortunately have to do business.
The alternative, of course, would be for us to undertake regime change. I - personally - would prefer that and from your attitude must assume that you would too.
However, I do wonder how the muslim world would react to GIs and squarddies trampling all over the holiest sites in Islam. http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/ohwell.gif
Whether or not they should have depicted Mohammed is of such irrelevance that I literally have no
idea why you would even bring it up.
Can you explain why you did?