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Originally Posted by Burney

No. There is a clear moral difference between a crime of violence and a crime against property.

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:sigh: Headbutting another yob in a kebab shop?

If you start making these judgements, you allow others to make such judgements, and you might not like how others judge. Especially when they start judging you.

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Originally Posted by Sir C

:sigh: Headbutting another yob in a kebab shop?

If you start making these judgements, you allow others to make such judgements, and you might not like how others judge. Especially when they start judging you.

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I'm not the one making the judgements. I'm just questioning the motivations that underlie this double standard.

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Originally Posted by Burney

I'm not the one making the judgements. I'm just questioning the motivations that underlie this double standard.

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Rich white men? The patriarchy? All men are rapists? All PIV is rape? That sort of thing? We could ask Suzanne Moore.

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Originally Posted by Burney

So in effect you would agree with those people who didn't want him re-employed by Sheffield United or another club, then? :shrug:

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'the case is still before the courts and there should be no action taken until the appeal process is complete'

'Ched Evans is a convicted rapist who should never work in football again'

You honestly don't see a difference between those two statements?

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Originally Posted by Burney

I'm not the one making the judgements. I'm just questioning the motivations that underlie this double standard.

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You mean you're not the presiding judge in the case or that you have no firm opinion on the matter either way?

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Rich white men? The patriarchy? All men are rapists? All PIV is rape? That sort of thing? We could ask Suzanne Moore.

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What on earth is PIV? :-(

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Originally Posted by Sir C

They're pretty much dismissing the verdict. Maniacs.

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Yep, was just about to post that.

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Originally Posted by redgunamo

What on earth is PIV? :-(

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Well, when the daddy and the mummy love each other very much, sometimes daddy's winky goes stiff and he puts it in mummy's secret pocket and they have a special cuddle, see? And then baby Jesus brings a tiny new baby to the family.

https://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013...lways-rape-ok/

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

'the case is still before the courts and there should be no action taken until the appeal process is complete'

'Ched Evans is a convicted rapist who should never work in football again'

You honestly don't see a difference between those two statements?

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Well actually, for quite a long time, the case was not before the courts, he was simply preparing to appeal his conviction - not the same thing.

The furore, as I recall, arose when it emerged that Sheffield United were planning to take him back on their books. And you have admitted you didn't think that would have been the right thing to do. Only the most extreme voices were calling for him never to work in football again.
Besides, by saying that you think not employing him when he'd been found guilty was the right thing to do, you are essentially saying that, had his conviction been upheld today, it would have been correct never to employ him in football again.

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Originally Posted by Monty92

Oh you make it sound so wholesome and genteel! Running round the back of the hotel to spy through be window on a pissed chick ****ing your mate? Not for me, Clive.

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FFS, we used always burst into a room where a friend was having high jinks with a lady friend, it would have been rude not too