Do people not realise that every time Trump is thwarted by judges his grip on power

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

Yes - hence I added the caveat in another post - this is all so unpredictable. I would say he is the bending the status quo as far as it can go, something has to give. I would say it's going to snap back into usual form at some point but quite possible it might just snap into pieces

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Yes. I rather like the fellow. Well not 'like' exactly, since he's obviously a thoroughgoing arse. But I do actually think he's probably a good thing in general, giving the lie as he does to the 'There is no alternative' crowd.

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Originally Posted by Peter

Yes, of course. But when you consider that he is Commander in Chief with direct control of the military, a mind that refuses to be sidetracked by potentially catastrophic consequences is a rather worrying thing.

Thus far, the bravado has been largely promises and posturing. Hopefully it stays that way.

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Oh I shouldn't worry too much about that, p. He can choose to start any ridiculous war he fancies. They're not going to lose, are they? They've got bundles and bundles of the good stuff.

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Oh I shouldn't worry too much about that, p. He can choose to start any ridiculous war he fancies. They're not going to lose, are they? They've got bundles and bundles of the good stuff.

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I don't care if they lose. I only care about my cats.

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Originally Posted by Burney

Yes. I rather like the fellow. Well not 'like' exactly, since he's obviously a thoroughgoing arse. But I do actually think he's probably a good thing in general, giving the lie as he does to the 'There is no alternative' crowd.

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There isn't supposed to be and that is the point. There wont be again.

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Originally Posted by Peter

There isn't supposed to be and that is the point. There wont be again.

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That's the thing, though. He's living proof that there is - which is one of the reasons he's so very hated.

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Originally Posted by Peter

I don't think I said that. I certainly didn't intend to do so.

In ordinary politics the military controls the military because the President is house-trained. This is not ordinary politics.

I expect it will work itself out but he is still a scary guy to have in charge of anything.

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I'm sorry for the whataboutery, but how can he be considered "scary" for people who supported, say, Tony Blair? Surely all the scrutiny Trump is subject to greatly reduces his capacity for scariness, as certainly wouldn't have been the case for Hillary Clinton.

You *must* see how that (your) view comes across as less than serious, in this context?

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

Not always, see Robert S McNamara

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.. With honourable exceptions, of course.

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Originally Posted by Peter

I don't care if they lose. I only care about my cats.

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How very isolationist of you p. Did you follow the unspoken wishes of your leader Jeremy and vote leave?

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Originally Posted by Peter

Sensible wars (the ones the military are happy to fight) are fine. Its the bad wars you need to worry about.

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The only sensible wars are ones with clear aims that you can win without things dragging on for years. So:

The Falklands = sensible war :-)
Gulf War 1 = sensible war :-)
Gulf War 2 = bad war :-(

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

Your assumption, or someone's assumption, seems to be that everyone that voted for Trump did so because of his anti-establishment pitch, or anti-swamp pitch, you might say.

I think he got a lot of anti-Hillary support, and much of that will be less than enamored with his continual run ins with traditional government and, in some cases, the constitution. I just don't think there's been enough time and enough incidents to see the full impact of that.

Or to put it another way, if he wants 4 more years at some point he is going to have to play some 'ball', as the Americans put it,

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If only I had said more or less the same thing :rolleyes: