They're coming

it would be the correct decision to remove him as manager, and yet also believe that you have no idea if his successor will improve us. You aren't even confident enough to say the chances of us improving under a new man are above 50%.

Well that's certainly a credible position :nod:

Whereas, you're content to let the grass grow under your feet.
If you wanted proof of how misplaced your belief is in him, you had it delivered last night.
How many more chances to you want to give him, before you consider a new approach.?

Worth mentioning that GG was at Millwall in 1982 and Groves didn't join us until 1986 and we finished 10th in 1982.

PS You could say Simeone, who I genuinely think has the potential to be a great manager. Though I think he'd probably need to ditch four or five players to instil his philosophy properly and 18 months to get over the language issues.

Here's mine...

Inherit a declining team in an old 38000 stadium
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Win the double in your first year
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Build a 100m training facility with the profit from selling your team's best players
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Go a whole season unbeaten and win a gold trophy
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Give the fans CL football every single year for 18 years (something no other club has managed in teh same period)
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Get to a CL final and be 20 minutes away from winning it
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Build a brand new 60000 stadium
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Pay off most of the mortgage by finding relatively unknown players and selling them to the world's top teams
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When the revenue from the new stadium starts to come in, attract players from Barcelona, Real Madrid, Man Utd
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Win an FA Cup
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Maybe finish 2nd or 3rd

so given his credentials and the fact he's not taking us backwards. I'm certainly happy to see what he can do with those renewed resources over the coming years.

And then he'll probably be leaving anyway, so why the rush?

OK - couldn't find his punch on Simeone but this is always worth watching

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtidXpWaVVM