Utd fans have really enjoyed mocking Kai Havertz since that cup game

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Ozil was a bit of a throwback to the old school 'free man'. In the modern game that guy needs to be able to press and be part of a system. Ozil was better when he was allowed to roam.

One of the problem of the players you mention up there was that too many of them were injury prone. Ramsey, Jack, Santi, Theo- they'd all go missing for months at a time. Same with Rosicky- what a beautiful footballer he was. Injury half killed him :-(

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Ozil was at his best providing for Cristiano Ronaldo :-\

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Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult

Odin, Auba, Monreal, AA23, Abou and Ade. Anyone I've forgotten? Anelka and Kanu?

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Jose Antonio RIP.

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Originally Posted by Peter

I should probably stop offering opinions on anything. I'm currently listening to ELO- intentionally :hehe:

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Nothing wrong with that. Not really. Wouldn't admit to it myself, mind, but there's nothing actually wrong with it.

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Nothing wrong with that. Not really. Wouldn't admit to it myself, mind, but there's nothing actually wrong with it.

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I don't really do guilty pleasures. If I like something I'm not ashamed of it. This is right on the very border though :-)

I heard Saxon on the radio earlier. ****ing terrible :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult

If you don't love Rosicky, you don't love football. {AW}

If he could have stayed fit, he could have been an all time great. Chippy, Rocky, Bobby P, Saka as great no.7s. Alexis only had 3.5 seasons and was no.17 at the start. But if he'd had over 5 years as a no.7, he'd be on the list. And if TR7 had stayed fit, he'd definitely be in there. We had him for 10 seasons, but he had under 20 league appearances in half of those and the most was 28.

170 league appearances. If we ignore B's breakthrough season with one EL start and a sub appearance in that and the PL, since then he's had 186 appearances in the next 5.5 seasons. 26 in the first and then 32-38 every other season.

Imagine we could have got over 300 league appearances out of Tommy.

Ganpati willing, B will stay with us for his entire career, win us shedloads and be known as our greatest ever no.7.

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We don't talk about him much these days but the young Fabregas was a phenomenal footballer. Almost perfect technically.

Shouldn't have gone to Barcelona. Moved to the only club in the world that didn't need him and had better players. Shame.

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I don't really do guilty pleasures. If I like something I'm not ashamed of it. This is right on the very border though :-)

I heard Saxon on the radio earlier. ****ing terrible :hehe:

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Yeah, same here. De gustibus non est disputandum, as they say.

However I'm actually going to see Saxon in a few weeks time and admit to being deeply ashamed of my wife for buying the tickets :-|

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We don't talk about him much these days but the young Fabregas was a phenomenal footballer. Almost perfect technically.

Shouldn't have gone to Barcelona. Moved to the only club in the world that didn't need him and had better players. Shame.

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Don't trust goalscoring midfielders, I'm afraid. It goes to their heads and they forget their place and begin to neglect their midfield duties.

Terrific player though, all the same. The only one in his team with brazen-faced bottle and bite, like a street footballer.

Or Dennis Wise :-\

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Originally Posted by Peter

We don't talk about him much these days but the young Fabregas was a phenomenal footballer. Almost perfect technically.

Shouldn't have gone to Barcelona. Moved to the only club in the world that didn't need him and had better players. Shame.

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Agreed. And losing him in the same summer we lost Nasri to those cheating Manc scum was basically what started the end of the Wenger years.

If we could have kept those two, got a world class DM, and over the next couple of years improved the defence gradually and added a new and plan B striker, we could have kicked on.

I don't think I'll ever forgive Abramovich and then City for trying to buy football and ending the game as we knew it.

In the old days, you wanted to get a good manager {GG/AW/MA}, make some signings who turned out to be really good value {Bould/Dixon, PV4, Gabby M}, have some yoof team players come through {TA6/Rocky/Merse, Cashley, B/Ethan/MLS} and maybe make some great big money signings who became completely world class {IWWW/DB10/TH14/Dec} and that would win you things if you got 3 or 4 of those.

{TBC - same applies to Clough's Forest, Villa, Scousers, Everton and Mancs in my life. Robson's Ipswich.}

So that's what people dreamt of.

Now people just want billionaire owners.

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Trossard is a rare example of a January signing actually coming in and making an immediate impact in a significant way. Doesn't happen that often. I think we just need someone to help a bit and fill in.

Summer is the crucial window. Some big decisions to make.

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In my limited time Arshevin was the most impactful January signing, and he had the added hurdle of learning about salad!