To hell with Muslim debates and Arsenal controversy, can we all agree that 'Becks'

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Originally Posted by SWv2

Gerard Houllier?

Anyway Terry Wogan got a Sir and he was foreign, so did Geldof.

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Sir Terry wasn't foreign. Born pre-1949 and therefore a British patrial.

The other two were honorary knighthoods, not proper wons.

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

Went the same way as his MBE, which was annulled when he convicted of indecent assault in 2001, I would imagine

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Was he? :hehe: Dirty Welsh bugger. Fair enough, bad example, but the point stands that merely being the best in your field isn't enough to guarantee a knighthood. Hell, Murray isn't even the best in his field.

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Originally Posted by Burney

Was he? :hehe: Dirty Welsh bugger. Fair enough, bad example, but the point stands that merely being the best in your field isn't enough to guarantee a knighthood. Hell, Murray isn't even the best in his field.

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I would suggest being the first Brit to win Wimbledon since Biff+ was a boy, being the only man to retain the Olympic Gold and being ranked as World number 1 is good enough

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Originally Posted by Pokster

I would suggest being the first Brit to win Wimbledon since Biff+ was a boy, being the only man to retain the Olympic Gold and being ranked as World number 1 is good enough

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Clearly it's 'good enough', but my problem - and I would guess Beckham's - is that the criteria for 'good enough' are completely mystifying and utterly arbitrary.

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Originally Posted by Burney

Clearly it's 'good enough', but my problem - and I would guess Beckham's - is that the criteria for 'good enough' are completely mystifying and utterly arbitrary.

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Aren't all awards like that?... Bobby Moore never got one which is far worse.

Hard to write down what makes someone the correct person to get a certain award, so has to be on a case by case basis, and DB obviously doesn't deserve one in the eyes of the establishment

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Originally Posted by Pokster

I would suggest being the first Brit to win Wimbledon since Biff+ was a boy, being the only man to retain the Olympic Gold and being ranked as World number 1 is good enough

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Only man to retain the Olympic Gold.

Is he not the only person ever to win the Olympic Gold given how long it has existed as a discipline?

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Aren't all awards like that?... Bobby Moore never got one which is far worse.

Hard to write down what makes someone the correct person to get a certain award, so has to be on a case by case basis, and DB obviously doesn't deserve one in the eyes of the establishment

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The problem has arisen from them handing out gongs far too early in people's lives just because they won something. Nobody ought to be knighted until at least their 50s and it's possible to take a longer view of their achievements.

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Originally Posted by Pokster

Aren't all awards like that?... Bobby Moore never got one which is far worse.

Hard to write down what makes someone the correct person to get a certain award, so has to be on a case by case basis, and DB obviously doesn't deserve one in the eyes of the establishment

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Which footballers have? Bobby Charlton. Um ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ritish_honours

Not many. And none for being a succesful commercial BRAND.

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Originally Posted by Ash

Which footballers have? Bobby Charlton. Um ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ritish_honours

Not many. And none for being a succesful commercial BRAND.

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Frank Lampard OBE.

Good lord.

Hold on, Steve Bull. For services to Wolves I assume.

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Originally Posted by SWv2

Only man to retain the Olympic Gold.

Is he not the only person ever to win the Olympic Gold given how long it has existed as a discipline?

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well obviously not you daft bugger...it's been in 15 of them... ancient, then a break and since the 1988 games