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That's unfair. Surely it was more important that t'were done,
rather than that it were done well? In these interesting times anyway.
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No, that's the medium, I'm afraid.
It has to be done and done well. The more incendiary the subject is the more crucial it is that its funny.
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Funny of you to mention the Python guys. Let's take a look at the reaction of
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But why should it be so incendiary?
Anything to do with what it says in their made up holy book, per chance?
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Or just the wrong kind of muslim
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What difference does it make? You admit you'd never heard of them until after they'd been offed.
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Maybe a better, or at least more modern, comparison would be Jerry Springer The Opera
Bit less in-your-face, but they should really be turning the other cheek.
http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources...KOP_0_PICTURE0
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Are you familiar with the old testament, at all?
Also, you do know that depicting Mo is considered haraam as it is, so if you're depicting him negatively that's worse squared?
I'm not defending what they did, and you know full well that my point isnt about that. I just really wish we were talking about something better here.
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What you've just done there is point out something that everyone knows already: that there are
non-muslim religious fanatics too.
So thank you for wasting our time.
Did they ever find Stewart Lee's headless body, by the way?
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What you’ve just done there is point out something that every body knows already; that there are
holy books other than the Koran that include repugnant doctrines.
So thank you for wasting our time. Again.
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No, see what I did there was probably too subtle for you
I sort of pointed out that their reaction had nothing to do with the relative scriptures and everything to do with the societal/cultural temperature that exists around religion.
You never saw the severed heads of the south park guys either
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Listen, on the time wasting point, you're the one asking the same question again and again
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I acknowledged elsewhere that there are more sinister/complex forces at play when these
situations flare up and that the content of the material can make a difference.
But, the fact is, without religion, these objections do not exist. Or at least they do not carry any weight. Religion validates them, in the minds of both mental god-botherers and intelligent non-religionists like you. And that is a problem.
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Do you do see the important difference? One is saying "we are outraged", the other is saying
"we will kill you".
It's almost as if Christianity isn't a problem, but Islam is.
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So f**king what if they say that depicting their head paedophile is forbidden?
Unless we have to submit, of course.
And yes, the OT is full of ****, but Christianity has been neutered. It is harmless and basically secular. Christianity is not living in the middle ages any more, but radical Islam is, quite clearly and increasingly so.
Did you say earlier that we'd have a fully secular society by 2050? Not if we don't stand up for secularism, we won't. And we don't do that by allowing the fanatics to dictate the rules.
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I think you misread that, I scoffed at the suggestion we would be a secular society
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I thought that was pretty much a given
But you cant argue that without religion the world would be a better place therefore lets get rid of religion, it doesnt work like that.
I do a lot of work supporting refugee charities (but I dont talk about it that much, charidee made) and they are rammed with good religiousers of every shade helping people. Working together too.
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I think the idea is that we are actually far better at war, and peace,
than they are.
Killing people is all very well but unless it pay the bills and buys the wife new Louis Vuittons and Mercedes Benzes, it's really just pointless and wrong. Albeit fun for the select few.
If they stopped war tomorrow, we could all just go off and play Call of Duty; but if you live in some third world hellhole, what else are you going to do, how else do you make a name for yourself while having some fun with the boys.
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You're actually cutting and pasting these gnomic interjections, arent you?
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Right. That's the important thing to keep in mind.
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Have you got a decent wifi connection there in Brazzaville, dude?
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I can argue that and I can point to the growing number of ex-muslims around the world, many of whom
live under the threat of death.
I think there’s even a twitter hashtag for it. That should get your interested.
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Yes, but not the 'lets get rid of it' bit
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Mercedes Benzes now, is it?
Has she got bored of the Range Rovers?
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Just became envious of mine, I think.
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I knew you'd agree. "They" may be alright at picking off the odd
civilian here and there, but it's definitely us that's doing the *real* killing.