We are Sp&rs

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Originally Posted by Peter

25 points from 14 league games since the start of January.

City haven't even had to be great or even consistent to overhaul us. We've done it for them.

We cracked when we weren't under pressure. And people think we are suddenly going to start winning all our games and scoring plenty now that the situation is desperate.

I find that staggering

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There's optimism and then there's delusion...

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Originally Posted by WES

Words matter, Peter. And they aren't a bit over the top, they are massively over the top. That's my only point, really.

Other than that I agree with your points and understand and share in the frustration. But my frustration will manifest itself more once I'm certain that it's over.

There is some reason to be hopeful in both the league and CL imo.

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I've seen literally nothing in this side, all season, to give me any belief that we can achieve anything other than runners up in both.

I know a lot of clubs would love to be where we are. But nobody really wants to finish second four years in a row. And certainly not where it is clear they should have won it.

Let's be clear. We should have won this title as comfortably as Liverpool did last season.

A champions league final would be fun. But the defeat will hurt a lot.

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Originally Posted by WES

If our mentality was that bad I, we wouldn't be top of the league with 5 to play. And in a CL semi.

I didn't see anything in the team's mentality yesterday, nor against Sporting, that concerned me. I think we're taking a complex problem and over simplifying it with absurdly provocative terms like bottlers, shambles etc.

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And i think you are elevating two relatively meaningless achievements to cover up our failures.

We've been top of a league where everybody else is **** and we've still managed to blow it.

And we've made it to a CL semi final by beating two teams we should be beating comfortably.

On paper, they sound like achievements. In practice they are what you should expect from a good side. And now we are approaching the business end, we are stumbling badly. As we have before.....

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Originally Posted by redgunamo

But you're dancing on the Valentine?

Never took you for one of those, P.

NTTAWWI :-\

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I'm not one of those. I didnt even go to Cambridge...