Ash....Breivik's manifesto

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Originally Posted by Sir C

I tend to think of terrorists as affiliated to a particular group, though. I mean, if I were to decide that my political goal was the freedom to abuse monty, and if I raped him at gunpoint to further my goal, that wouldn't make me a terrorist, would it? It would make me a lone nutter. A sexually gratified lone nutter, admittedly, but a lone nutter nonetheless.

I appreciate that this is a rather strange analogy but I was taken by the mental image of me raping monty at gunpoint.

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You wouldn't need a gun, sweety

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Originally Posted by Sir C

I tend to think of terrorists as affiliated to a particular group, though. I mean, if I were to decide that my political goal was the freedom to abuse monty, and if I raped him at gunpoint to further my goal, that wouldn't make me a terrorist, would it? It would make me a lone nutter. A sexually gratified lone nutter, admittedly, but a lone nutter nonetheless.

I appreciate that this is a rather strange analogy but I was taken by the mental image of me raping monty at gunpoint.

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Ah, well I can get more into the distinction between the lone nutter and the organised group. We just have to apply the terms consistently. So if Mr Stabby from Bloomsbury is a terrorist, then Mr Nazi Memorabilia is too. Or if one is instead mentally ill, then the other is too.

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Originally Posted by Ash

Ah, well I can get more into the distinction between the lone nutter and the organised group. We just have to apply the terms consistently. So if Mr Stabby from Bloomsbury is a terrorist, then Mr Nazi Memorabilia is too. Or if one is instead mentally ill, then the other is too.

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Yes, but once you know that Mr Stabby Bloomsbury is a Muslim you are required to stretch the definition of ‘mentally ill’ much wider than you do with Mr Nazi Memorabilia in order for the label to fit.

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Originally Posted by Ash

Ah, well I can get more into the distinction between the lone nutter and the organised group. We just have to apply the terms consistently. So if Mr Stabby from Bloomsbury is a terrorist, then Mr Nazi Memorabilia is too. Or if one is instead mentally ill, then the other is too.

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What's interesting, though, is how quick the authorities were to rule out mental illness in the case of Thomas Mair and how quick they are to rule it in in the case of Mr Al-Stabby.

For me, no-one can have cupboards containing only ketchup, beans, evaporated milk, biscuits and salt and be sane.

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Originally Posted by Burney

What's interesting, though, is how quick the authorities were to rule out mental illness in the case of Thomas Mair and how quick they are to rule it in in the case of Mr Al-Stabby.

For me, no-one can have cupboards containing only ketchup, beans, evaporated milk, biscuits and salt and be sane.

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The authorities have to play up the "lone wolf mentally ill" angle when muslims commit acts of violence, otherwise it will stoke Islamophobia and lead to innocent muslims being stigmatised and abused

Whereas, of course, playing up white, non-muslim violent acts as politically motivated has absolutely no consequences and doesn’t at all feed into the Islamo-fascist persecution narrative.

That was sarcasm, by the way.

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Originally Posted by Monty92

The authorities have to play up the ‘lone wolf’ mental illness angle when muslims commit acts of violence, otherwise it will stoke Islamophobia and lead to innocent muslims being stigmatised and abused

Whereas, of course, presenting white, non-muslim violent acts as politically motivated has absolutely no consequences and doesn’t at all feed into the Islamo-fascist persecution narrative.

That was sarcasm, by the way.

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Dan Hodges on Twitter earlier: "Thomas Mair. Anders Breivik. David Copeland. Timothy McVeigh. Is it becoming rational to fear white, right-wing men?" This as part of his ongoing campaign to assert that any fear of Islam is racism.

It is hard to believe how an educated adult cannot see how monumentally fùcking stupid that assertion is, but there it is. :shakehead:

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Originally Posted by Burney

Dan Hodges on Twitter earlier: "Thomas Mair. Anders Breivik. David Copeland. Timothy McVeigh. Is it becoming rational to fear white, right-wing men?" This as part of his ongoing campaign to assert that any fear of Islam is racism.

It is hard to believe how an educated adult cannot see how monumentally fùcking stupid that assertion is, but there it is. :shakehead:

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I heard a while back that he's known to be many politicians' favourite political commentator. He strikes me as a monumental cretin who is wrong about almost everything.

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Originally Posted by Monty92

I heard a while back that he's known to be many politicians' favourite political commentator. He strikes me as a monumental cretin who is wrong about almost everything.

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His main schtick was being an exiled Blairite who took to writing bitterly in The Telegraph about how Ed Miliband was totally fùcking useless and would never be Prime Minister - a role he is continuing about Corbyn. This stating of the obvious apart, yes, he has been wrong about virtually everything else.
He's also Glenda Jackson's son, so has to live with the fact that everyone's seen his mum's hairy growler. :-(
And he has one eye.