Are we really considering employing someone called 'Grandad Holy Ghost' as manager?

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Originally Posted by Burney

But come on! You must accept that there is no other point during the year when you would dream of putting poultry, ham, sausages, gravy and pork-based stuffing on the same plate - not because Christmas is a unique feast, etc, but because those things just don't go together and all their individual charms become lost in the meaty melée.

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Because to do it at any other point of the year would detract from the occasion. The reason why we do certain things only at Christmas time is because that what makes it special.

Personally I can't wait for that massive, tummy-busting plateful of poultry and pork meats, stuffing, gravy, sprouts and ton of vegetables.

Just don't expect me to eat any puddings, cakes or sweets for the rest of the day.

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Originally Posted by Ash

Because to do it at any other point of the year would detract from the occasion. The reason why we do certain things only at Christmas time is because that what makes it special.

Personally I can't wait for that massive, tummy-busting plateful of poultry and pork meats, stuffing, gravy, sprouts and ton of vegetables.

Just don't expect me to eat any puddings, cakes or sweets for the rest of the day.

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Which vegetables though a? This is important. I do Brussels sprouts and red cabbage and parsnips and carrots, because that's what my mummuy used to do. But there's always too much.

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Originally Posted by Ash

Because to do it at any other point of the year would detract from the occasion. The reason why we do certain things only at Christmas time is because that what makes it special.

Personally I can't wait for that massive, tummy-busting plateful of poultry and pork meats, stuffing, gravy, sprouts and ton of vegetables.

Just don't expect me to eat any puddings, cakes or sweets for the rest of the day.

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:nod: Do you know how many Christmas puddings we had sitting in the larder from previous years that we couldn't eat? At one point it was about 4 of them and then we stopped buying them.

Nibbling on some cheese with post meal drinks is the closest we ever get to dessert on Christmas day.

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Originally Posted by Burney

:nono: Just because they're called Hamas doesn't mean they like ham. That would be quite the faux pas.

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Haha they're called ham-ass! I never thought of that before! I might wander round Gaza calling them all ham-ass! For the lols.

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Originally Posted by WES

Whence I first arrived in England and was living in Barnes the local butcher (Bob, top chap) told me that English people eat turkey or goose on Christmas Day and leftovers and ham on Boxing Day.

I have eaten thus ever since. And sorry but I'm taking butcher Bob's view over yours. :nod:

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I hate to break it to you, but your Butcher Bob was a communist and almost certainly a homosexual.

Besides, these 'leftovers' would presumably include turkey, yes? So this queer commie was in fact advocating the consumption of poultry and meat on the same plate.

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Originally Posted by Ash

Because to do it at any other point of the year would detract from the occasion. The reason why we do certain things only at Christmas time is because that what makes it special.

Personally I can't wait for that massive, tummy-busting plateful of poultry and pork meats, stuffing, gravy, sprouts and ton of vegetables.

Just don't expect me to eat any puddings, cakes or sweets for the rest of the day.

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Look, as long as we're both on the same page about ham with Christmas dinner and can face down this pair of snobby spastics, I'm happy to concede your point.

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Originally Posted by WES

:nod: Do you know how many Christmas puddings we had sitting in the larder from previous years that we couldn't eat? At one point it was about 4 of them and then we stopped buying them.

Nibbling on some cheese with post meal drinks is the closest we ever get to dessert on Christmas day.

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Oh, no. You have to have trifle. Again, you wouldn't think of eating it at any time of years because it's basically gloop. But, made with Madeira (never sherry), it's delicious gloop.

I don't believe anyone who tells me they like Christmas pudding. It's actively horrible.

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Originally Posted by Burney

I hate to break it to you, but your Butcher Bob was a communist and almost certainly a homosexual.

Besides, these 'leftovers' would presumably include turkey, yes? So this queer commie was in fact advocating the consumption of poultry and meat on the same plate.

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It would be cold turkey, though. As part of a buffet with roast ham and other bits and pieces. That's different and perfectly acceptable.

Roasting a ham and a turkey and serving them together with meat based stuffing is what the Victorians did. Some of us have moved on. Sniff.

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Originally Posted by Burney

:nono: Just because they're called Hamas doesn't mean they like ham. That would be quite the faux pas.

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Ironic etymological interlude:

Apart from meaning 'hamlet' or 'village' the saxon word 'ham' as a place-name refers to the land between two rivers. The most well-known of these in our parts being the West Ham and East Ham between the Lee and Roding rivers.

Now some say that the two blue lines on the Israeli flag represent the Nile and the Euphrates, with the space between them being the land that Israel aspires to. I'm not saying that, btw.

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Oh, no. You have to have trifle. Again, you wouldn't think of eating it at any time of years because it's basically gloop. But, made with Madeira (never sherry), it's delicious gloop.

I don't believe anyone who tells me they like Christmas pudding. It's actively horrible.

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Yes agreed, although that Heston won with an orange in the middle was actually pretty good. And I love brandy sauce. But of my 24 years in this country I think we managed Christmas pudding twice that I can remember, too stuffed the rest of the time.

Trifle I love, Mrs WES makes a wonderful one. But we got tired of throwing 80% of it so we stopped. Chocolates, cheese, nibbles with a few Negronis is my post dinner approach.

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Originally Posted by Ash

Ironic etymological interlude:

Apart from meaning 'hamlet' or 'village' the saxon word 'ham' as a place-name refers to the land between two rivers. The most well-known of these in our parts being the West Ham and East Ham between the Lee and Roding rivers.

Now some say that the two blue lines on the Israeli flag represent the Nile and the Euphrates, with the space between them being the land that Israel aspires to. I'm not saying that, btw.

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You're saying that it should be called 'Israelham'?

To be fair, I find it ironic that both the pork-rejecting religions trace their foundations to Abra-HAM

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Oh, no. You have to have trifle. Again, you wouldn't think of eating it at any time of years because it's basically gloop. But, made with Madeira (never sherry), it's delicious gloop.

I don't believe anyone who tells me they like Christmas pudding. It's actively horrible.

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Christmas pudding is nice but requires the lubrication of double cream. A lot of double cream. In fact, the christmas pudding should be mushed into the double cream until the bowl appears to contain christmas pudding soup.

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Ironic etymological interlude:

Apart from meaning 'hamlet' or 'village' the saxon word 'ham' as a place-name refers to the land between two rivers. The most well-known of these in our parts being the West Ham and East Ham between the Lee and Roding rivers.

Now some say that the two blue lines on the Israeli flag represent the Nile and the Euphrates, with the space between them being the land that Israel aspires to. I'm not saying that, btw.

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One suspects that if the IDF put their minds to it they could probably take it, too.

wd the IDF. Doublenailshard when required.

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Originally Posted by WES

Yes agreed, although that Heston won with an orange in the middle was actually pretty good. And I love brandy sauce. But of my 24 years in this country I think we managed Christmas pudding twice that I can remember, too stuffed the rest of the time.

Trifle I love, Mrs WES makes a wonderful one. But we got tired of throwing 80% of it so we stopped. Chocolates, cheese, nibbles with a few Negronis is my post dinner approach.

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I generally to the notion of dried fruit as any sort of a treat, so I dislike most traditional Christmas sweet things (mince pies, Christmas cake and pudding can all fúck off). It's just a legacy of a time when we didn't have nice things like sugar and chocolate and so had to make do with dried fruit. Fúck dried fruit. Fúck it in its wrinkly, not-sweet-enough arse.

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One suspects that if the IDF put their minds to it they could probably take it, too.

wd the IDF. Doublenailshard when required.

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Have you ever watched 'Fauda' on Netflix. That's Israeli and terribly good.

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Have you ever watched 'Fauda' on Netflix. That's Israeli and terribly good.

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No, the only thing I've watched on Netflix is Stranger Things.

Between my TV licence, Sky, Amazon Prime, Netflix and BT Sport I must be spending £200 a month on TV I never watch. How did this come about?

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Originally Posted by Burney

The lure of the small sausage is remarkable. Every year I make fancy nibbles. I make gravadlax, mini Lobster thermidors - that sort of thing. But I also make a big rake of chipolatas in honey and wholegrain mustard.

Guess which of these disappears most quickly. :-(

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They are a remarkable thing. Like mini hamburgers - there was a time when any press event I went to there were always mini-burgers and people always pigged out on t


For cultural senstitivity in these difficult time - these also sound great

In Israel, Moshe Ba'Teiva (Moses in the basket) is a dish consisting of a kosher hot dog rolled in a ketchup-covered sheet of puff pastry or phyllo dough and baked.

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No, the only thing I've watched on Netflix is Stranger Things.

Between my TV licence, Sky, Amazon Prime, Netflix and BT Sport I must be spending £200 a month on TV I never watch. How did this come about?

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I know. This is why I want to cancel my TV Licence, but the missus won't let me as she's frit.

Fauda's about this fat, bald sweaty chap who's part of an elite team that fights Palestinian terrorists. It's dead good.

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I know. This is why I want to cancel my TV Licence, but the missus won't let me as she's frit.

Fauda's about this fat, bald sweaty chap who's part of an elite team that fights Palestinian terrorists. It's dead good.

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Is it in jewlanguage? I can't speak fluent jew.

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They are a remarkable thing. Like mini hamburgers - there was a time when any press event I went to there were always mini-burgers and people always pigged out on t


For cultural senstitivity in these difficult time - these also sound great

In Israel, Moshe Ba'Teiva (Moses in the basket) is a dish consisting of a kosher hot dog rolled in a ketchup-covered sheet of puff pastry or phyllo dough and baked.

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Mini-Yorkshire puds with roast beef and horseradish are another favourite.

Did I ever tell you about the presser I went to when some mad pervert had made tempura cucumber and not warned anyone? That was one of the worst things I've ever accidentally eaten - right up there with the foie gras mini creme brulee I once ate in France thinking it was a normal creme brulee. :-(

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Is it in jewlanguage? I can't speak fluent jew.

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It's in Jewtalk and Arabtalk (indistinguishable as far as I'm concerned) with the odd bit of English, too.

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Mini-Yorkshire puds with roast beef and horseradish are another favourite.

Did I ever tell you about the presser I went to when some mad pervert had made tempura cucumber and not warned anyone? That was one of the worst things I've ever accidentally eaten - right up there with the foie gras mini creme brulee I once ate in France thinking it was a normal creme brulee. :-(

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Good lord - almost as bad as getting everyone to go to place for a launch on the premise of free beer and serving them Budweiser

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One suspects that if the IDF put their minds to it they could probably take it, too.

wd the IDF. Doublenailshard when required.

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Didn't go too well for them last time they went into Lebanon, ISTR.

Mind you, tbf, they're damned good against opponents armed with pointed sticks and pieces of fruit.

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Didn't go too well for them last time they went into Lebanon, ISTR.

Mind you, tbf, they're damned good against opponents armed with pointed sticks and pieces of fruit.

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Like the Egyptian and Syrian air forces?

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Like the Egyptian and Syrian air forces?

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To be fair, they rather foolishly hadn't take off :hehe:

To be fair, you can accuse Israel of many things, but only winning wars against smaller, weaker opponents really isn't among them.

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To be fair, they rather foolishly hadn't take off :hehe:

To be fair, you can accuse Israel of many things, but only winning wars against smaller, weaker opponents really isn't among them.

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No. Surrounded by about 600 million Arabs thirsting for their blood, they seem to generally take the sensible option of defending themselves pretty robustly.

As I say. wd IDF.

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Originally Posted by WES

I'm doing goose this year as the cretinous in-laws only arrive for leftovers and ham on Boxing Day.

I'v chosen a Ray White recipe as the starting point. Legs in for 2 1/2 hours, breast for 1 hour. Sounds wonderful.

And bread stuffing cooked separately as only a mad man stuffs the bird itself. With goose stock made from the neck and innards, date, apple and cranberry. And home made foie gras chunks scattered around. All roast vegetables in goose fat.

I may never make turkey again. :-(

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Are you making your own foie gras? Good man. My mate outside Toulouse does that. Gave me a kg one Xmas.

How do you do it? Is it easy?