My genocidal maniac brig.gen African warlord uncle used to say something like that too.
Sandhurst, you see; even brings out the best in the worst of us :-\
That does not seem likely to me. The British peoples are now alive to the work of Russian trolls, and the Brexit campaign was the work of Russians plus some old people.
The British will now come to their senses and remain in the EU. Eastern European prostitutes will continue to ply their trade in Albion, unimpeded.
:-)
Yes, but ega, you get your notions of what the British are thinking from the Washington Post and the NYT.
That's like getting your opinions on the British view of Churchill from the Deutsche Beobachter. :shrug:
In the nicest possible way, you have precisely fùck all idea what you're talking about. :-\
I love the idea that Russia and its piddling little economy (smaller than Australia's) managed to financially out-muscle a campaign that was backed by the UK government, the Bank of England, the US President, the World Bank, the CBI, Goldman Sachs, etc. :hehe:
It is fùcking laughable.
Can I ask you where on your smart phone you get the ability to add the inflection to your "u" in fu ck? I feel if I had that I'd be able express myself more authentically.
Is there any cretinous russophobic conspiracy theory you don't buy into ega? No, I thought not. You've probably already got Tulsi Gabbard down as a Kremlin construct. Listen up, you gullible muppet, the reason your psychotic, criminal b1tch from hell lost the election is because she's a psychotic, criminal b1tch from hell and practically the only person in the democratic party capable of losing to Donald Trump. A Russian clickbait farm posting pictures of puppies on facebook had nothing to do with your election result. Neither did 79p of ads on facebook have anything to do with Brexit.
I apologise for the tone of this post. I have a policy of trying to be polite to people on here, but you really are an irritating pillock.
Tulsi Gabbard :love:
Wait a second. Wait just a goddamned minute. I admit Hillary Clinton was a flawed candidate. Her voice, in particular, which causes my testicles to run for cover way up in my fvcking abdomen. But the American result was quite an anomaly, and I can't see how you could know anything about it. Not unless you're living in Boston or some undisclosed American location. I know a lot of people who were getting pretty crazy around 2016. Like run for the hills and become the Unabomber crazy. But that's not to say some weird stuff was not actually going on.
'Weird stuff' is always going on, though. The point is, ega, that ascribing 'anomalous' events like Trump and Brexit to some deus ex machina (in this instance Russia) is fundamentally lazy thinking. The whole point is that these events are not anomalous. They are perfectly comprehensible - even predictable - given the historical context in which they took place. Britain's Euroscepticism is not new and the US public voting in large numbers for a populist candidate who firmly rejected the declinist, globalist Weltanschauung is hardly something that should have taken anyone by surprise.
Blaming Russians is something that's done by people who don't want to look the real reasons why these things happened in the face.
The votes to take no deal off the table and extend Article 50 are likely to be meaningless. I listened to the EU Parliament debate this morning. There is little mood to consider an extension. Socialist/liberal types argue we don't know what we want, so there's no point. Conservative/Eurosceptics argue that the EU doesn't have the right to lock a sovereign state in the EU when we have voted to leave. None of them want a whole load more Uncle Nigels elected if we have to take part in EU elections in May.
No deal is now the likeliest outcome, though not certain.
Sure. To an extent. And I did not object to the fact of that "side" of America getting a shot. It's very clear: there are the elite economic zones (NYC, LA, DC, SF), and there are the flyover states. The latter routinely get fvcked with. And we can see that the mere placeholder of a populist president surfaces a lot of gunge, such as, for example, this cheating scandal for elite colleges going on right now. This is all to the good. Lets off steam. And why should people not be homers, especially when we have nice areas, mountains, eagles. It's not Bangladesh, after all.
No question. But my goal is to bring about the anarcho-syndicalist overthrow of the the capitalist narco-state, and this means that I will always blast forth any conspiracy to help weaken the latter. Trump's illegitimacy, and your current travails, being two examples.
Not sure I understand why the EU would extend? Unless I’m missing something by not extending we are forced into no deal - which we have made it clear we won’t do - or May’s deal, which the EU have agreed.
So they refuse to extend and we are forced into May’s deal, no?
Not if she can't get it through Parliament (which she patently can't), no.
A rejection of an extension means No Deal.
The only alternative is legislating to revoke of A50, which would be democratically indefensible and would represent electoral suicide for both major parties.
I've explained the mechanics whereby it potentially happens. Labour would whip against it and there's no reason to think any other opposition parties wouldn't do the same, since they'll want to distance themselves as far as possible from 'Tory Brexit' as they can. The DUP won't budge if the backstop doesn't and the ERG - if faced with a choice between the deal they hate and No Deal - will overwhelmingly vote No Deal (indeed, many of them would love it).
Now sure there are lots of potential complications to that (abstentions, rebellions on the Labour benches, Tory MPs losing their bottle, etc), but it's perfectly plausible - even likely at this stage - that May's deal is rejected a third time and we get No Deal. :shrug:
The only upside to a delay from the EU’s perspective is that it ends up in a referendum and a Remain vote. The downside of no extension is that we may vote for no deal.
The EU has to decide which of those two things is more likely and proceed accordingly I think.
I’m now guessing they don’t extend we have one final vote and May’s deal goes through as parliament won’t vote for no deal.