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you cannot get away without mentioning the bad guts and stomach cramps, when going beyond the threshold of a few pints.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Of course, it's likely that P was weaned on the stuff and has built up a commendable resistance. The rest of us who just partake occasionally though. :toilet:
How many do you know? I reckon I know 3......and yes, they all drinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Did you read the rather long interview with him in The Times - considering the writer made a great point of Chiles sitting there with a water, it was a rambling load of drunken *******s really (for which the writer and editors should take more responsibility than Chiles it must be said)Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
Yes, it seemed to go around in circles and I was left wondering whether he had done it p1ssed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Typical journo, really. Mostly p1ssed. I only know two people in the journalism/publishing game.
You and Burney. :rubchin:
There's a reason why newspaper staff get an official 1.5 hour lunch break, you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
:hehe: I work three days a week just south of Fleet St, across from Blackfriars. In addition to a plethora of pubs in that part of Fleet St, there is a church there called the Journalists' Church.Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
I'm guessing the sins confessed to there are largely alcohol related. :nod:
:( Those were the days*Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
https://pressgazette.co.uk/the-day-t...et-lunch-died/
*technically before my time
:hehe: It did re-emerge after Kelvin left.....as I'm sure you well knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
One might like to think there might just be the tiniest twinge of guilt in some quarters around telling the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
But probably not.
It's all about sales, Ash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
An interesting cultural distinction between our Yankee friends and the Brits. As freedom of the press is such a strong part of their cultural heritage there is a certain duty/honour with regard to accurate reporting that runs through the legitimate media sources i.e. not Fox news, that doesn't seem to exist in the same extent in the UK.
Certainly when I lived there it was the ultimate sin for a journo to publish something that proved to be untrue. Rather different in the UK, to say the least.
I don't have the time to discuss this in any detail but I profoundly disagree. US media is full of unverified claims presented as truths, and errors of omission.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
speaking of journalismQuote:
Originally Posted by Ash
https://twitter.com/CrapLocalNews/st...60601341087744
:hehe:
Yeah, that culture of petty, obsessive (and often pretty worthless) fact-checking has pretty much gone down the crapper in the US now. There just aren't the sales to support the staff to do it anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
You also have to bear in mind that the UK has the oldest free press in the world. Its roots are in pretty freewheeling scandal sheets and politically-partial muckraking. It doesn't have the po-faced stick up its arse the US press has. The US Press thinks it has some sort of crusading duty to eternal truth. The UK press knows it's an entertainment and tomorrow's fish wrapper.
The other interesting anomaly is that the UK has much, much stricter libel laws than exist in the US and yet the US is much more obsessed with being tediously factual. It therefore tends to see them as its guidelines rather than any more theoretical ideas about objective truth. The truth therefore tends to be not necessarily what strictly happened, but what you can get away with without m'learned friends getting involved.
Oh, yes. The bias and dishonesty are just as manifest. They're just accompanied by a patina of self-satisfied sanctimony and - as a result - produce some of the dreariest newspapers on earth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
:nod: And having worked with his daughter I can assure you that such a puritan opinion on alcohol does not run in the familyQuote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
Christ yes. The US is pretty much the only place on earth that one cannot greet sunday morning with an eagerness for the papers, for they are inevitably as dull as ditchwater. Christ, the Straits Times is a laugh a minute compared to the Washington Post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Indeed - even the Telegraph has more cheery bits in it than your average US broadsheet. (Well, once a year when A Level results are out and they can put attractive teenagers on the front page)Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
The Telegraph often has glamorous ladies on the front page. This infuriates my mother-in-law, who refers to them as 'those bástards', for some reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
this post and yet no-one spits nails quite so vehemently when Comarde Jez indulges in a leetle bit air-brushing on his past transgressions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
What kind of monster are you b?
I used to work with a crazed Scot who had worked on the Straits Times - even managing to cover the Vietnam War gig for them at one point. He liked a drink (obviously) and had some fine stories of being 'in the sh1t'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
The Telegraph's page three always used to have the most sordid details of the latest criminal or high-profile divorce cases. Doubtless that tedious, joyless old tit Charles Moore killed off that tradition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Is she referring to the Telegraph or the glamorous ladies?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Marvellous. He sounds like a Le Carré character. I'm mad for those 60s and 70s war correspondants and I tick off FCCs I have drank in. So far I have Bangkok, Siem Reap, Phnom Penh, Hong Kong and New Delhi. Some of them have been modernised but you can still smell the fear if you sniff hard enough (drink enough scotch).Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Fits nicely with a per day amount dunnit. I think a Stella is 4 units :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by WES