That Trudeau chap is great. He seems to have spent his last week or so

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I'd have thought you'd be right up their Straße on Prevent, what with your rank apologism n'all.

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I wanted them to confront the issue of radical islamic terrorism head on and take a stand on what would and wouldnt be tolerated, in the name of defending democracy, free speech, poofs etc....


What we got was a pathetic excuse for policy which didnt mention belief-based extremism even in the abstract and played along with the notion that all ideas are welcome as long as they are not 'extreme'- without any detail as to what does and doesnt constitute extremism and who decides.


I am not having that.

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When in fact they haven't been thinking at all.

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Quite. If we can ban someone from speaking in opposition to gay marriage why can we not also ban someone speaking in defence of a faith or faiths that oppose it?

I am for free speech in virtually all cases and would welcome anyone here to discuss ideas. My position is not over thought and perfectly understandable. I cannot understand the official position at all.....

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I wanted them to confront the issue of radical islamic terrorism head on and take a stand on what would and wouldnt be tolerated, in the name of defending democracy, free speech, poofs etc....


What we got was a pathetic excuse for policy which didnt mention belief-based extremism even in the abstract and played along with the notion that all ideas are welcome as long as they are not 'extreme'- without any detail as to what does and doesnt constitute extremism and who decides.


I am not having that.

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So they think you're an islamophobe, too?

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Originally Posted by Peter

I wanted them to confront the issue of radical islamic terrorism head on and take a stand on what would and wouldnt be tolerated, in the name of defending democracy, free speech, poofs etc....


What we got was a pathetic excuse for policy which didnt mention belief-based extremism even in the abstract and played along with the notion that all ideas are welcome as long as they are not 'extreme'- without any detail as to what does and doesnt constitute extremism and who decides.


I am not having that.

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I think tearing down the grand narrative of religious dogma may be slightly beyond the remit of the Home Office, tbh.

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I think tearing down the grand narrative of religious dogma may be slightly beyond the remit of the Home Office, tbh.

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True, but I am taking about our own interpretation of it which was hopelessly vague but still implied certain curtailments on your freedom of belief.

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So they think you're an islamophobe, too?

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They struggle with the idea that one can be opposed to a curtailment on grounds other than supporting the issue.

when I complained that their symposium debating gay marriage had refused to allow an opponent a platform they asked me why I opposed gay marriage. I had to explain a hundred times that that wasnt the issue and that you simply cannot debate something if you close down one side of the debate.

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They struggle with the idea that one can be opposed to a curtailment on grounds other than supporting the issue.

when I complained that their symposium debating gay marriage had refused to allow an opponent a platform they asked me why I opposed gay marriage. I had to explain a hundred times that that wasnt the issue and that you simply cannot debate something if you close down one side of the debate.

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You are basically our Jordan Peterson, fighting the good fight, with no fear of putting uncomfortable truths ahead of comforting lies.

You're the best, Peter.

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You are basically our Jordan Peterson, fighting the good fight, concerned only by what is right, not what *feels* right.

You're the best, Peter.

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:nod: Peter Jordanson

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You are basically our Jordan Peterson, fighting the good fight, with no fear of putting uncomfortable truths ahead of comforting lies.

You're the best, Peter.

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Or, just a pain in the arse who has nothing better to do.

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.. fighting the good fight, with no fear of putting uncomfortable truths ahead of comforting lies.

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Don't you mean "Kevin" Pietersen?

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Don't you mean "Kevin" Pietersen?

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Red - we need not to talk about Kevin

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Well, precisely. THe first question is 'do you suffer from unconscious bias'- yes or no. The obvious answer is 'well I wouldnt know would I, else it would conscious'. If you answer yes you have to explain why you are such a terrible person. If you answer no they explain to you that you do suffer from it, you just dont know that you do.

It goes on like that for hours with a 20 question exam at the end. You can kind of guess how it develops from that first question.....

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Thought crimes. :-(

I am about to miss the second compulsory 'Diversify' re-education camp as I am not working that day. I don't know whether to keep quiet about it until they track me down or stand up and tell them to go and read 1984.

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http://www.techweez.com/wp-content/u...ght-police.jpg

Thought crimes. :-(

I am about to miss the second compulsory 'Diversify' re-education camp as I am not working that day. I don't know whether to keep quiet about it until they track me down or stand up and tell them to go and read 1984.

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I usually quite enjoy stuff like this but in recent years it has become a joke. THe looks you get when you say you are not attending the 'celebrate LGBT history' lunch........

I always used to wonder about the anti-nazi league.... what nazis? Are there loads of nazis marching around that I have somehow missed?

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I usually quite enjoy stuff like this but in recent years it has become a joke. THe looks you get when you say you are not attending the 'celebrate LGBT history' lunch........

I always used to wonder about the anti-nazi league.... what nazis? Are there loads of nazis marching around that I have somehow missed?

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No. Which is why they have to keep inventing them.

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I usually quite enjoy stuff like this but in recent years it has become a joke. THe looks you get when you say you are not attending the 'celebrate LGBT history' lunch........

I always used to wonder about the anti-nazi league.... what nazis? Are there loads of nazis marching around that I have somehow missed?

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My maths teacher was almost certainly a nazi.

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My maths teacher was almost certainly a nazi.

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Mine was a welsh gym teacher.

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I usually quite enjoy stuff like this but in recent years it has become a joke. THe looks you get when you say you are not attending the 'celebrate LGBT history' lunch........

I always used to wonder about the anti-nazi league.... what nazis? Are there loads of nazis marching around that I have somehow missed?

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Those ANL ****ers used to make me want to side with the NF. ****ing hippies.

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Mine was a welsh gym teacher.

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My PE teacher was Welsh too! As a matter of principle, he didn't like the British Lions. So, practically a nazi. Worse, if anything.

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Those ANL ****ers used to make me want to side with the NF. ****ing hippies.

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Hippies dont march. They sit.

Most people used to only go to those things for the free Levelllers concert at the end.

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My PE teacher was Welsh too! As a matter of principle, he didn't like the British Lions. So, practically a nazi. Worse, if anything.

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My PE teacher was 'not to be trusted around young girls'....... you were not really supposed to say that at the time so we just stuck to the facts instead- that he very certainly ****ed at least two underage girls during the time we were at the school.

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My PE teacher was Welsh too! As a matter of principle, he didn't like the British Lions. So, practically a nazi. Worse, if anything.

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My maths teacher played for Wales. Gerwyn Williams, he was called.

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My maths teacher played for Wales. Gerwyn Williams, he was called.

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Excellent. Winger, I suppose. They were all wingers back then, weren't they.

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My PE teacher was Welsh too! As a matter of principle, he didn't like the British Lions. So, practically a nazi. Worse, if anything.

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British and Irish R.

Let's show some respect here please.

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Mine was a welsh gym teacher.

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Your maths teacher was a Welsh gym teacher? Explains a lot

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British and Irish R.

Let's show some respect here please.

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If your lot would just grow up and let them play as the British Isles it would all be a lot simpler