Acceptable hootenanny line-up imo

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Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman

Did you actually fly passenger jets c?

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Not professionally, h. Although there was a rather amusing incident involving a junior first officer and an A320 from Gatwick to Paphos which could have resulted in prison time for several of those involved :hehe:

I've displayed military jets, if that helps?

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No, turned there back on my mum when she needed help....coonts

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:-( Civil servants, innit.

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Not professionally, h. Although there was a rather amusing incident involving a junior first officer and an A320 from Gatwick to Paphos which could have resulted in prison time for several of those involved :hehe:

I've displayed military jets, if that helps?

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On a shelf at home?


I display a few scooters on top of the CD stand.

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Yugoslavia! :cloud9:

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Originally Posted by Ash

Yugoslavia! :cloud9:

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:nod: Stolen by some Serbian air force pilots at the end of the war :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Sir C

:nod: Stolen by some Serbian air force pilots at the end of the war :hehe:

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How easy is it, btw, for a bloke who has mainly trained on a simulator, to fly a passenger airliner into a building at ground level without touching the grass?

Asking for a friend.

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Originally Posted by Ash

How easy is it, btw, for a bloke who has mainly trained on a simulator, to fly a passenger airliner into a building at ground level without touching the grass?

Asking for a friend.

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Flying a 3 axis simulator is exactly the same as flying the aircraft. If you've done it in the sim you can do it in the aeroplane.

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Originally Posted by Sir C

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Flying a 3 axis simulator is exactly the same as flying the aircraft. If you've done it in the sim you can do it in the aeroplane.

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Can't be exactly the same, surely? It isn't real, for a start. You're not going to die if something goes wrong, or right in this case.

Could you do it?

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Originally Posted by Ash

Can't be exactly the same, surely? It isn't real, for a start. You're not going to die if something goes wrong, or right in this case.

Could you do it?

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I've done some sim training myself and I've sat in on lots of training and testing and what is immediately noticeable is that after 10 minutes everyone completely forgets that it isn't real. It's so incredibly immersive that you have absolutely no feeling of it being make believe at all.

Flying an aeroplane, under power, into something and hitting it accurately would be more a question of holding your nerve than skill. An airliner has lots and lots of thrust and lots and lots of momentum; it will go exactly where you point it, and if you're not concerned about niceties like maintaining a correct speed and rate of descent, or keeping the ride comfortable for your passengers, or overstressing the airframe, you could learn pretty quickly to aim the nose at your target and keep it there.

Have you done the training exercise where you end up upside down in a swimming pool strapped into a pretend cockpit ?

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Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas

Have you done the training exercise where you end up upside down in a swimming pool strapped into a pretend cockpit ?

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They don't really do that. You get chucked into a swimming pool wearing a life jacket and have to climb into a liferaft, that's about it.

By the time the flight deck is upside down and in water you're fúcked anyway.

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Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas

Have you done the training exercise where you end up upside down in a swimming pool strapped into a pretend cockpit ?

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I think v did that to him to get the life insurance

I will be alright then
Practiced removing and inflating pyjama bottoms in the pool at school

Pokster : I think v did that to him to get the life insurance


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Oh don't worry old boy, that takes the biscuit enough for me. Gunning around the skies in a nimble jet is firmly up there in the constellation of boyhood fantasies and must have been a very visceral thrill. I get only a hint of it when I push my bike up to criminally illegal speeds.

I don't wanna know about the high jinx on the A320 - I'm scared enough of flying as it is.

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Originally Posted by Sir C

you could learn pretty quickly to aim the nose at your target and keep it there.

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Flying your jet into an extremely tall building, if you intend to hit it anywhere from about half way up to the top, is just a question of locking the nose onto the building from about 5 miles and staying there, true?

But what of actually picking your floor, as per of one the many conspiracy nutjob scenarios. Given the carcass of the building gives no visual clue to the floors within, that would be tricky? Or could their altometetrs have picked a floor for them?

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Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman

Flying your jet into an extremely tall building, if you intend to hit it anywhere from about half way up to the top, is just a question of locking the nose onto the building from about 5 miles and staying there, true?

But what of actually picking your floor, as per of one the many conspiracy nutjob scenarios. Given the carcass of the building gives no visual clue to the floors within, that would be tricky? Or could their altometetrs have picked a floor for them?

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The altimeter is nowhere near accurate enough to choose a specific floor, no. I suppose you could use the radar altimeter but flying over a city that's going to be up and down like a bride's nightie.

In short, you're only going to hit a target you can see and point at.

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The altimeter is nowhere near accurate enough to choose a specific floor, no. I suppose you could use the radar altimeter but flying over a city that's going to be up and down like a bride's nightie.

In short, you're only going to hit a target you can see and point at.

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Of course,all in the assumption it did actually happen :cgi:

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The altimeter is nowhere near accurate enough to choose a specific floor, no. I suppose you could use the radar altimeter but flying over a city that's going to be up and down like a bride's nightie.

In short, you're only going to hit a target you can see and point at.

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Thank fúck for that. I've been using that particular observation to blow conspiracists out of the water when they spin up the 'bombs already placed at the exact floor of aircraft's impact' nonsense. I suddenly realised the if the altimeters were clinically accurate then my counterpoint was flawed.

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Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman

Thank fúck for that. I've been using that particular observation to blow conspiracists out of the water when they spin up the 'bombs already placed at the exact floor of aircraft's impact' nonsense. I suddenly realised the if the altimeters were clinically accurate then my counterpoint was flawed.

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It didn't happen H
Hollywood at it's finest imo

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Originally Posted by TheCurly

Of course,all in the assumption it did actually happen :cgi:

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That's right, :cgi: Also :brainwashingeveryonewhowatchedithappen:

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Originally Posted by Sir C

That's right, :cgi: Also :brainwashingeveryonewhowatchedithappen:

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Come now c. The New York Fire Department, New York's Bravest as they like to be known, should change their nom-de-guerre to New York's Most Corruptible. Bigger thieves even than their British counterparts. They would've gone along with whole charade for a case of Bud.

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Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman

Come now c. The New York Fire Department, New York's Bravest as they like to be known, should change their nom-de-guerre to New York's Most Corruptible. Bigger thieves even than their British counterparts. They would've gone along with whole charade for a case of Bud.

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You are Kelvin Mackenzie and I claim my five pounds.