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Originally Posted by Peter

Only in the UK. And these days all it really means here is that you dont do any teachings. There is no actual chair.

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No chair? :-(

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Originally Posted by Burney

Yes. And a chair.

Is it a special chair, do you know? Not like Professor Stephen Hawking's special chair, but all fancy and gold like a throne?

Whenever I hear someone is the holds the Cyril Regis Chair of Chemistry or whatever, I like to imagine a right fancy sort of a chair.

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The term 'chair' traditionally relates to an old endowment. It is rarely used these days and there is certainly no actual chair.

They dont need a chair as they hardly ever set foot on campus.

Did you know you can buy face-sitting chairs ?
True dat

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Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas

"You should hear some of the words he uses!"

Long ones are they ?
Multiple syllables ?

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Yep. Words you've never heard of, s!

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Originally Posted by Burney

No chair? :-(

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I'm afraid not :(

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Originally Posted by Peter

The term 'chair' traditionally relates to an old endowment. It is rarely used these days and there is certainly no actual chair.

They dont need a chair as they hardly ever set foot on campus.

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Well this is very disappointing, I must say. Were there ever actual chairs?

What about Professors of Music? Do they have Musical Chairs?

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Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas

Did you know you can buy face-sitting chairs ?
True dat

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What? Why do you need a chair to sit on someone's face?

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Originally Posted by Burney

No chair? :-(

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My brother was a professor, can't recall any special chair that only he was allowed to sit in.

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Originally Posted by SWv2

My brother was a professor, can't recall any special chair that only he was allowed to sit in.

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My auld da had one of those :-(

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Originally Posted by SWv2

My brother was a professor, can't recall any special chair that only he was allowed to sit in.

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:hehe: :hehe: :clap:

A professor is someone who teaches at a 'university', sw. This is a place where people on England who can read and write go to, look, just forget it ok?

"What? Why do you need a chair to sit on someone's face?"

To provide overall comfort for the woman before she receives specific close quarters comfort

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Originally Posted by SWv2

My brother was a professor, can't recall any special chair that only he was allowed to sit in.

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My uncle (God rest his soul) had a chair also. At UCD. He took it off of an Englishman they were going to give it to. There was all manner of skullduggery, apparently.

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Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas

"What? Why do you need a chair to sit on someone's face?"

To provide overall comfort for the woman before she receives specific close quarters comfort

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It doesn't sound vert comfortable for the chap. Is he lying down or just having to crane his neck?

All in all, I think that the point at which you need to bring a special chair in for sexy time is the point at which you knock it on the head.

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Originally Posted by Sir C

:hehe: :hehe: :clap:

A professor is someone who teaches at a 'university', sw. This is a place where people on England who can read and write go to, look, just forget it ok?

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He was a professor at universities in Ireland, Argentina and somewhere in Scandinavia (Norway perhaps). Something related to some college in the States also, Houston I believe.

:shrug:

These Professor chairs are the Chesterfield type no ?
Mastermind ?

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Originally Posted by SWv2

He was a professor at universities in Ireland, Argentina and somewhere in Scandinavia (Norway perhaps). Something related to some college in the States also, Houston I believe.

:shrug:

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Ah, that explains it. Foreign 'universities'. Carry on.

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Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas

These Professor chairs are the Chesterfield type no ?
Mastermind ?

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I think there's a business opportunity selling bespoke chairs to Professors. Ones with built-in remote controls and fridges in the handles where they can keep their beer. Classy, like.

"It doesn't sound vert comfortable for the chap. Is he lying down or just having to crane his neck? All in all, I think that the point at which you need to bring a special chair in for sexy time is the point at which you knock it on the head. "

The poor giver has to lie flat but crane his neck upwards so not only are his tongue and nose assaulted , his (or her) neck and shoulder muscles suffer too
All in the name of giving

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Originally Posted by SWv2

He was a professor at universities in Ireland, Argentina and somewhere in Scandinavia (Norway perhaps). Something related to some college in the States also, Houston I believe.

:shrug:

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Be honest, sw: when he was 'teaching in Argentina', etc, was this just a cover story your family told because he was in prison?

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Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas

"It doesn't sound vert comfortable for the chap. Is he lying down or just having to crane his neck? All in all, I think that the point at which you need to bring a special chair in for sexy time is the point at which you knock it on the head. "

The poor giver has to lie flat but crane his neck upwards so not only are his tongue and nose assaulted , his (or her) neck and shoulder muscles suffer too
All in the name of giving

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Fück that shït, s.

"I think there's a business opportunity selling bespoke chairs to Professors. Ones with built-in remote controls and fridges in the handles where they can keep their beer. Classy, like."

Sounds inspired by that magic chair Jimmy Savile occupied when fixing things
Ash tray dispenser if you press one button
If you press another , his cigar pops out

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Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas

Sounds inspired by that magic chair Jimmy Savile occupied when fixing things
Ash tray dispenser if you press one button
If you press another , his cigar pops out

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This one? Interestingly, it was velour. Given his proclivities, I'd have thought he'd have wanted something a bit more wipe-clean.

Attachment 801

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Anyone working for someone else who is frstrated that they don't own these 'means of production' is at liberty to go and work for themselves, aren't they? A self-employed window cleaner owns his means of production, doesn't he?

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Petit-bourgs innit. Seperate class. And of course the Amazon worker is free to go and set up his own global distribution company, buy the Washington Post and take a $600m contract with the CIA, but MoP is a possible distraction. Class lines do exist, but not how we used to see them. I will expand on this.

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Originally Posted by Burney

I think there's a business opportunity selling bespoke chairs to Professors. Ones with built-in remote controls and fridges in the handles where they can keep their beer. Classy, like.

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Prof'll Fix It.

That's the one Yes
Looking at the base it looks as if it can rotate fully
I think Jim'll did use protective sheets to cover the bedroom furniture and clothing belonging to his late Mother which in a diversion from the narrative he kept untouched after she passed

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Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas

That's the one Yes
Looking at the base it looks as if it can rotate fully
I think Jim'll did use protective sheets to cover the bedroom furniture and clothing belonging to his late Mother which in a diversion from the narrative he kept untouched after she passed

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It was up for auction. I've no idea who would want to buy such a thing.

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Originally Posted by Burney

The concept of class is only meaningful if people feel its gradations applies to them, though. People don't feel like that anymore. Tell a family with a four-bedroom house, two new cars, foreign holidays and nice, white-collar jobs which provide a comfortable standard of living that they are in fact the new proletariat because they don't own the means of production and they will - not unreasonably - tell you to fück off.

In short, the concept of 'class' as understood by Marx is hopelessly out of date.

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But tell them that their vote in the referendum needs to be over-ruled because the experts say so, and the new class divisions become clearer. Tell them that they are lesser humans because they are not an approved minority and they may become politicised. The ruling class, with its various components in finance, politics, media, capital, entertainment, academia stands for itself, and uses its power to increase its influence and consolidate that power. The ordinary people as a whole with little money or power, even if they have a new car that they are snared in debt to own, (and call them what class you will) have a vote, and they have numbers. There is a contemporary class struggle right there.

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Originally Posted by Ash

But tell them that their vote in the referendum needs to be over-ruled because the experts say so, and the new class divisions become clearer. Tell them that they are lesser humans because they are not an approved minority and they may become politicised. The ruling class, with its various components in finance, politics, media, capital, entertainment, academia stands for itself, and uses its power to increase its influence and consolidate that power. The ordinary people as a whole with little money or power, even if they have a new car that they are snared in debt to own, (and call them what class you will) have a vote, and they have numbers. There is a contemporary class struggle right there.

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Yes, but again you need to define your terms. Much of what you call 'the ruling class' these days is - to my mind and many others - very much of the left and in some instances explicitly left-wing. People no longer feel oppressed by aristos and industrialists, they feel oppressed by a media/academic/entertainment/civil service and political class most of whom would probably identify as left-wing.

This is the thing: the left is the new ruling class, which renders Marxist notions of its overthrow outdated.

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Yes, but again you need to define your terms. Much of what you call 'the ruling class' these days is - to my mind and many others - very much of the left and in some instances explicitly left-wing. People no longer feel oppressed by aristos and industrialists, they feel oppressed by a media/academic/entertainment/civil service and political class most of whom would probably identify as left-wing.

This is the thing: the left is the new ruling class, which renders Marxist notions of its overthrow outdated.

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I agree, the Fake Left is now the ruling class. Historical Materialism is the understanding that at any point in history there will be a struggle between classes. Not that class struggle was always going to be the traditional Labour v Capital. The current class struggle is national sovereignty v globalism. Though it is mainly the 'deplorable' forces of labour who favour the former, and the owners of capital (and I don't mean a fùcking ladder and a piece of cloth) who are for the latter.

I was reading the other day (can't remember where) that Blair's real reason for racking up immigration was not to "rub the right's nose in diversity" but to push down labour costs.

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I agree, the Fake Left is now the ruling class. Historical Materialism is the understanding that at any point in history there will be a struggle between classes. Not that class struggle was always going to be the traditional Labour v Capital. The current class struggle is national sovereignty v globalism. Though it is mainly the 'deplorable' forces of labour who favour the former, and the owners of capital (and I don't mean a fùcking ladder and a piece of cloth) who are for the latter.

I was reading the other day (can't remember where) that Blair's real reason for racking up immigration was not to "rub the right's nose in diversity" but to push down labour costs.

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I agree with all your points about the battle lines, but think the attempt to frame them within the context of Marxism isn't a good fit. For instance, nationalism was always anathema to the classical Marxist because it worked directly in opposition to the idea of internationalism. However, it is now a flag around which the culturally and socially diverse strands who oppose a globalist vision can rally. To frame that as a purely class issue is rather simplistic.

All in all, I think it's now simply too fragmented and diverse a social and political picture to apply any monolithic political framework to it.

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Originally Posted by Ash

I agree, the Fake Left is now the ruling class. Historical Materialism is the understanding that at any point in history there will be a struggle between classes. Not that class struggle was always going to be the traditional Labour v Capital. The current class struggle is national sovereignty v globalism. Though it is mainly the 'deplorable' forces of labour who favour the former, and the owners of capital (and I don't mean a fùcking ladder and a piece of cloth) who are for the latter.

I was reading the other day (can't remember where) that Blair's real reason for racking up immigration was not to "rub the right's nose in diversity" but to push down labour costs.

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It really, honestly was a miscalculation more than anything else. They genuinely thought the eastern european migration would be far smaller and more gradual. The motivation was a gradual change in the demographic to expand the workforce over the next two decades and look after the millions of old *******s we are stuck with.

That and to push labour costs down in certain sectors. :)

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It really, honestly was a miscalculation more than anything else. They genuinely thought the eastern european migration would be far smaller and more gradual. The motivation was a gradual change in the demographic to expand the workforce over the next two decades and look after the millions of old *******s we are stuck with.

That and to push labour costs down in certain sectors. :)

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A miscalculation? :hehe:

A miscalculation is when a barmaid gets someone's change wrong, not when a Prime Minister lets millions of migrants in, thus fundamentally altering a society's demographics in the space of a decade.

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Originally Posted by Peter

It really, honestly was a miscalculation more than anything else. They genuinely thought the eastern european migration would be far smaller and more gradual. The motivation was a gradual change in the demographic to expand the workforce over the next two decades and look after the millions of old *******s we are stuck with.

That and to push labour costs down in certain sectors. :)

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:nod: And to make up for the fact that you's lot are all impotent crybaby homos and snowflakes. Far more politically expedient to import redgunamos and various other foreign undesirables than call you out on it.

Essentially what you've done is make a cash settlement on your future, rather than actually take care of it yourselves. glwtpimo.

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Originally Posted by Burney

A miscalculation? :hehe:

A miscalculation is when a barmaid gets someone's change wrong, not when a Prime Minister lets millions of migrants in, thus fundamentally altering a society's demographics in the space of a decade.

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Right. I'm not sure what the alternative could've been. Apart from the obvious, obviously.

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Right. I'm not sure what the alternative could've been. Apart from the obvious, obviously.

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I'm struggling to work out what the story is here, though? Was it a miscalculation (i.e. incompetence) or was it a deliberate decision taken with long-term aims in mind?

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:nod: And to make up for the fact that you's lot are all impotent crybaby homos and snowflakes. Far more politically expedient to import redgunamos and various other foreign undesirables than call you out on it.

Essentially what you've done is make a cash settlement on your future, rather than actually take care of it yourselves. glwtpimo.

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You're not foreign, you're from Henley ffs!

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Originally Posted by Burney

I'm struggling to work out what the story is here, though? Was it a miscalculation (i.e. incompetence) or was it a deliberate decision taken with long-term aims in mind?

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The latter, I think. At least in Germany, from whence most of my facts about the business come from.

The numbers may be a little frightening, but there's always plenty of wastage where livestock is concerned; most won't actually settle and will simply drift off into elsewhere or back home, rather than stay and be a long-term burden on the national purse.

Anyway, as I said, cash isn't really a problem, kids is.

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I'm struggling to work out what the story is here, though? Was it a miscalculation (i.e. incompetence) or was it a deliberate decision taken with long-term aims in mind?

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THe decision is to welcome the immigration. THe miscalculation was the scale. In the numbers they envisaged, the benefits were obvious.

I mean, lets not think for a moment that Brexit is going to put an end to EU migration to Britain. You dont honestly think that do you????

The idea is to control who comes in by taking back our borders. In other words, government responding to the lobbying and 'influence' of certain industries to allow ****loads of poles in at certain times.

We still need a migrant workforce and we are still going to have one. Anyone who thought they were voting to end immigration is going to be pretty ****ing furious in 5-10 years time.

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You're not foreign, you're from Henley ffs!

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Interesting thing; I was back there again recently and we got to musing that fifty-odd years ago, when I was a nipper, there was a grand total of seven redgunamos "fundamentally altering a society's demographics".

Nowadays, while there are dozens more of us going about around the globe, there's still only seven of us in Henley.

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Originally Posted by Peter

THe decision is to welcome the immigration. THe miscalculation was the scale. In the numbers they envisaged, the benefits were obvious.

I mean, lets not think for a moment that Brexit is going to put an end to EU migration to Britain. You dont honestly think that do you????

The idea is to control who comes in by taking back our borders. In other words, government responding to the lobbying and 'influence' of certain industries to allow ****loads of poles in at certain times.

We still need a migrant workforce and we are still going to have one. Anyone who thought they were voting to end immigration is going to be pretty ****ing furious in 5-10 years time.

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Brexit was merely an opportunity for people to show what they believe in; nothing to do with specifics and stats and whatnot.

In other words, it's the culture, stupid :-)