Come now, sw. We've all had a drink.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
Come now, sw. We've all had a drink.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
You'll get over it in time, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
I'll have none of this rancour. What would modd say?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
We're all friends here, brothers almost. Worth remembering at times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Indeed, sw. You appear to be channeling the benign spirit of modd in this statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
Dear old modd. I do miss him.
Forgive me, old chap. I didn't mean to appear rancourous. Let's put it down to a mid-week dip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
You've made me cry a little bit now, sw :hug:Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
You've been swimming again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
The biggest rancour of all, imo*.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Only joking.
I mean like a, you know, post-prandial dip, but this dip being occasioned by the knowledge that it's Wednesday and that one must continue to prostitute oneself to the gods of HMRC for a further 2 and 1/2 days until one is allowed a fleeting moment of freedom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Just heard on the radio that Gibbs is gwan for £7mQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Absolute 70's tho so maybe unreliable sauce bro...
Perhaps you can help me out as to why the following critique is the ranting of a half-wit:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain was offered no new contract, or contract talks during the last year - the penultimate one of his contract. Partly because of this, it is reported, by the end of the season he had made up his mind that he wanted to leave the club and made this quite clear on a number of occasions. He also made it clear that he wished to play in midfield.
At this point AW suddenly announced that AOC was one of the most important players in the club, and for England, and wanted him to be a key component of his future plans, although he did not mention whether these plans included AOC playing in central midfield. AOC said again that he wanted to leave.
On the pitch, our right wing back was played out of position (and underwhelmed), and our shiny new left wing back (who looked good in pre-season) was played in central defence (with another left wingback as two of our remaining CBs are not good enough for the squad) so that Ox could play as right wingback. We lost the match and the next game the response was to drop Kolasinac (and Lacassette) and keep the want-away Ox, whose performances had not been too super, in the team in a position he doesn't want to play. We got spanked four nil and it might easily have been seven.
Now it seems AW has accepted that Ox is not going to stay and agreed to sell him to Chelsea, but they won't play him in midfield either so he refuses to go there, so we offered him to Liverpool who aren't offering us enough money, and now we have a day and a half to sort something out.
All this for a player who has said he wanted to leave while last season was still going on.
None of this suggest mental illness to me :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
I'm just tired of the hyperbole and intemperate language. It feeds off itself. There are people on this board who have been calling aw a ***** for 10 years - now they're becoming apoplectic.
Like Antifa, Trump and identity politics, we live at a time when it would do a great deal of good if everyone sat down and thought quietly for a moment about exactly why they are so outraged.
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Originally Posted by Ash
Maybe chuck in the fact that when we did offer him a contract it was allegedly 180 grand a week which I presume he will now want from Liverpool or Chelsea. Liverpool wont pay him that we may have priced him out of a move.
We are ****ing good at this :)
This £180 grand is a figure plucked from someone's imagination. You have absolutely no idea if it is anywhere near true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
You have absolutely no idea what he will want from liverpool or Chelsea.
You have absolutely no idea what Liverpool would pay him.
You've just put a load of random imaginings together and used them as a stick with which to beat the club :shrug:
Other than this, your argument is cogent, reasoned and entirely factual.
I read that he's just turned down £220k pw from Chelsea. To be fair to the boy, playing in that position is more important to him than the dosh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
He stated quite clearly that he is not going to retire and that he will either be here or somewhere else managing a football team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
What we can be reasonably sure of
1) He is motivated to manage
2) He has no other interests
3) He has no one at home.
4) His new contract came with a pretty good raise
5) He easily won the battle of the restructure with Gazidis
What we can (possibly) infer
1) His reputation has taken a dent from his last contract renewal to now.
2) He had no other offers from anyone else.
3) He has free reign to do what he wants on the football field without interference
the above, if true, would make the decision quite easy tbh.
While you may be angry with these people I am not sure why you are being so feisty with other calm and deep thinkers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Your stoic loyalty to Wenger has been noted and I respect you for that*.
*I don't
That's fair enough, but it doesn't invalidate the critique, which just focuses on one player's contract situation, and there are many others. If a highly paid and powerful executive at any other company presided over such a scenario, he would surely recieve some flak.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
I personally have no wish to get angry about football. It ain't worf it. Especially when there are more important things to worry about, like a new leak in the flat. I did get a little bit stressed watching the Liverpool match though, It wasn't pretty.
Criticism may well be merited, I agree. As I say, i object merely to the intermperate language and hysteria.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
Thoughts and prayers to you and Mrs A, especially after the last one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
:-(
Your usual perspicacity is lacking on this occasion, sw. I am not in the least feisty, simply trying to inject a little reason into the hysterical little girl knickerwetting which seems suddenly to have become de rigueur.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
Thanks. It shouldn't be as bad as the last one but ironically it's looking like the insurer's builder who incorrectly fitted the new bath (source of the previous leak) that has caused the new problem. Really hoping we don't have to dig up the floors again.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
Noted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
However, and I say this as a relatively new quinquagenarian and one who normally can brush over football as being just the game it is - having seen the game on sunday and watching other issues unfold at the club we all support a small amount of "little girl knickerwetting" is almost understandable though obviously not cool.
You kind of skipped over the use of the word allegedly didnt you. Well done, you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
I actually hoped we had deliberately offered him loads to **** up a chance of him going to Liverpool as part of some spiteful, childish revenge for their stupid comment over the whole suarez offer. I had hoped we had served a stone cold dish of revenge.
I doubt it. That would require planning :)
I want to dislike him but if that is true it is hard to criticise. I hope his desire to plays in midfield is more successful than THeo's desire to play up front....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
Yes, but that is because you are a ****ing ****Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Because he's phenomenally arrogant and stubborn. Which is why he's failed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Do you not sonetimes suspect, though, that the club's interests might - just might - be better served by a change? Two more years of this can only hurt the club's reputation. We've always applied certain principles to players about this being The Arsenal and us having a certain reputation and image to maintain. If a manager's continued presence is threatening to tarnish those things (whether it's his fault or not) should we not apply the same principle?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Yes, indeed. I thought last season was the time for him to go; his relationship with the fanbase seems to me to be irredeemably fractured, and all sides would have benefitted from a dignified parting of the ways in May.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Check my gusset. Dry as a bone.
I don't see much hysterical little girl knickerwetting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
I see a bunch of people who support Arsenal Football Club asking valid questions and making valid points, supported by reasonable assumptions and facts, about the performance of the manager of Arsenal Football Club.
I then see these same people being accused of hysterical little girl knickerwetting. :shrug:
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Originally Posted by Peter
It is undeniable, p. T'as raison.
Yes, but that's one of the benefits of an enlarged prostate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Oh I'm not accusing you of knickerwetting, wes. The day you progress from nappies to knickers, then I'll accuse you of knickerwetting.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
I now officially accuse you of knickerwetting. :judge:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
HA!
You've been feeling my prostate whilst I slept again, haven't you? :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Kindly keep your forefinger to yourself.
Photo evidence may help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
For a friend.
What this thread really needs now is Monty.
Charles has done his best to be the counterpoint but his heart really isn't in it. Not really in it.
Monty would bring a new level of obsequiousness and we might really be able to kick on from here.
:shrug: Don't try to drag me into your little boys' pissing competition. You lads can carry on trying to outdo each other in the extremity of your language to decry every aspect of our club, and I hope that saying the naughty words gives you the little chubby you seek.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
I shall remain, dignified, on the sidelines, watching you all with a small, supercilious smirk. I call it 'doing a Harvey'.
I'm embarrassed about the dried semen :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2