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*cough* Nadal
some also view Sharapova's excessive screaming after every shot is a form of cheating
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Sure, but the fact that football's lines are blurred, that it contains all those ways of coming away
feeling that your team has been cheated (or that you've gleefully got away with having cheated yourself) is part of the whole football supporting experience. Football is cutthroat, amoral and largely red in tooth and claw and those things are essentially part of the attraction.
Fans like the fact that refs are clueless stooges constantly being hoodwinked by the faster and more savvy players. It's part of the pantomime. Robben's just the villain twirling his figurative moustache.
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Right. A match against Bangladesh is already "fixed", by definition.
At least in the sense that you're not supposed to lose.
Or do you mean only "unofficial" match-fixing.
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Actually, most non-pro tennis is played without umpires and players ref themselves.
Cheating on line calls therefore possible, in the same way as your jumpery goalpost.
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Exactly. It should be more effectively policed in other words. Until it is, there's no point
castigating those who successfully get away with it. They don't care - they've usually got lots of money and medals to console them.
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you get some right cheating bastards as well
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It's just part of the pantomime, the soap opera. Disrepute accusations are merely the
various governing bodies trying to pay their bills and cover their costs. That's fair enough, I think.
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To my mind, 'bringing the game into disrepute' erroneously presupposes that the game is 'in repute'
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Balls. There are constantly fantastic, memorable matches in which flagrant diving does not occur.
There is no reason why if endemic diving was stamped out the game would suffer. In fact, it may force the media to focus more on the sport, rather than the pantomime, and encourage fans to do the same.
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Yes, it actually makes little difference to the outcome either way.
The best will still end up winning.
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Nobody wants that anymore, I think. Mesut Özil's accountant, for a start.
The panto is the reason football is the biggest sport.
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What if the fans actually prefer the pantomime, though? After all, as you say, football coverage
tends to focus more on controversy than on the technical aspects of the game and this is a formula that seems to have worked for people like Sky Sports, TalkSport et al.
The football authorities know this. They know that without controversy, their product would be nowhere near as popular as it is. This is why they're so resistant to reforms that would stamp out various forms of cheating.
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But as I said, there are frequently matches that captivate viewers/spectators
that are entirely absent of flagrant diving. This alone shows that football fans are not entirely in thrall to the pantomine element of the sport.
Indeed, football provides ample pantomime even without cheating. The sheer human drama of who will win is enough to make it a brilliant sport - as much if not more than the controversy.
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message reported to Ian Bell
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Right. The law and spirit of the game is merely meant to provide a bland framework for the activity.
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That's what decent, fee-paying schools were invented for.
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He's actually an incredibly bad diver.
The sneaky clever ******* will leave a trailing leg and adapt the trip and fall in one skillful rolling movement.
This c**t seems to think that by grossly exaggerating a challenge by performing a star jump, or catapulting his limbs in all directions that he can get a decision.
c**t, with very poor execution of the art..
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It was why I stoped playing competitively at a certain level.
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I agree (although I would argue that you and I have never seen a football match without any flagrant
cheating whatsoever - be it handball, fouling, timewasting, etc, etc, etc).
However, what interests me is that you seem suddenly to have developed a faith in your fellow football fans' love of the game itself that I find surprising and touching. :hehe:
You really think the mouth-breathers who call TalkSport and Sky Sports would just stick around for the football? Really?
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Personally think he's not as bad as people make out...
His ball control and change of gear is right up there with the likes of Henry in his pomp.
Just dives like a white guy.
Wouldn't see a black lad swan laking it....nope nada no chance...
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Oddly enough, I sort of agree, However, it keeps working - same as it used to for Klinsmann - which
suggests to me that what looks like ridiculous exaggeration to those of us who can watch it several times in slo-mo doesn't look that way to the referee on the ground. Perhaps exaggeration just works better?
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He's a really good player with quick feet and so he encourages
lots of challenges in the box. He gets given some, but he probably gets refused even more.
b) The pelanties he does get are usually following contact. I can't recall many times he has faked contact entirely and got given one.
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I note that Cook still hasn't had the common decency to resign as captain.
If a home series defeat to Sri Lanka in early summer doesn't do it then what will?
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Hmmm?
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You clearly weren't watching Sturridge.
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Definite contact there
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And getting his ankle stamped to pieces for good measure...
Besides Wellbeck isn't that sort of player...nice try
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Tony Adams used to be a dreadful diver
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That's a very good point, nearly all CB's go down in a heap from the slightest
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I'm talking black black not some lad who says pele was hero and does ads for chicken teriyaki subs
All about the Colonel innit blud
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I can't see him resigning - they'll have to sack him.
However, as the ECB threw Pietersen under a bus in order to secure the Moores/Cook partnership, I can't see them sacking either for a long time to come.
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Sometimes even without the slightest touch
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not sure about the one arm raised technique
looks like he has been attacked for knowing the answer to a maths question.
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Eboue? He is as black as they come.
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Preach!
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I miss KP.
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I suspect the key issue here is his former employment with a team that many dislike.
I am no huge fan of Mexicans so don't give two f**ks.
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The officials will have more or less decided on the matter long in advance,
at those secret training camps of theirs.
Maybe they've decided that "The Seal" is more sinn'd against than sinning.
