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Well i dont own a house or a wife so i suppose i wouldnt know
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radical conservatism?

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Plus the minor bonus that lots of people don't get slaughtered this way.
I know you lefties like wading ankle-deep in the blood of whoever it is you've decided you don't like that morning, but it's hell on the dry-cleaning bills.
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In a way, that is the british radical tradition. Anything but radical
Look at the birth of the labour movmeent. Far too polite by anybody's standards. It was pnly the inclusion of a few middle class ponces that forced the word socialism onto the agenda.
We are a dull, 4-4-2 kind of a country.
Apart from when it comes to rock n roll where we are f**king great :-)
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That's just because we're an island though. The Germans, for instance,
do not have that luxury. They actually have to get things done. Not just talk about getting things done.
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It's more of a Hanseatic thing, I think
And like all Northern Europeans we're secretly jealous of the southern europeans with their dashing virility, carefree attitudes and baroque Catholicism.
And yes, their pleasingly shambolic, inefficient and easier-to-depose dictators
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So I should go to the furthermost, least european parts of europe to learn about it?
not one of your bonniest mots, rg
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You'd have had a job to make more of a hash of it than the Spanish or Irish have, to be fair.
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There is more than one way to slaughter someone. Actually, thatcher's approach to government
Was terribly un-english, with pragmatism far too low on the agenda.
Rather un-conservative as well.
What a c**t :-)
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Or spurs on the yankee jackboot, depends on your standpoint I think
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And the fact that they produce all the best footballers

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class joke
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Meh, if Rock music had a formation it would be 442
The Singer/Guitar/Bass/Drums set up is the musical equivalent of a flat midfield
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Here comes your military bent again. Not every national characteristic is determined by
the inability of your opponent to launch an amphibious assault. :-)
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Fair point.
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Yes, of course. It's all the same.
My house is normally full of Europeans and carpet bombing them on a regular basis would be just the job, I reckon.
It's just that the hounds wouldn't like it at all.
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I would agree. Although I would point to the tradition of Cromwell argument again there.
The English are naturally a fairly relaxed, tolerant and indolent lot, who generally will do anything for the quiet life and loathe being hectored. Unfortunately, there come times in their history when it is necessary for someone a bit strident, tiresome, single-minded and - yes - radical to stir up the bottom of the pond a bit and do what needs to be done.
It's a shame, by the way, that you felt the need to augment what was otherwise a perfectly good point with the last bit, which - in common with much anti-Thatcher stuff over the last few days - had all the value and dignity of a toddler shouting 'BUM!' in church.
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So now you're defining what constitutes a European?
Oh, do tell, j! I can't wait for this bit. Who are the most and least European Europeans, exactly? Because - and I hate to break this to you - quite a lot of Europeans would regard us as barely being European at all.
All a question of perspective, see?
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Communism funds terrorism, George.
Fortunately though, it also funds anti-terrorism :thumbup:
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Owning a wife - eh? Where's your political correctness gone now
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Actually, that's a good point. I would imagine that most non-Euros who
think that Europe is wonderful have only ever been to somewhere like Stockholm in the Summer. Or Magaluf, or Oktoberfest.
And then they wonder why they simply cannot understand things like Treblinka or Sarajevo.
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More subtraction than division, I'd suggest.
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It was a royal widdle, B... and it was rather rude of you to bait the bear like that
Always good to comeback to a comeback from you anyhow....
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Well no, it's widely accepted and has been foe aeons, that it's a Euro/Asia fault line, no?
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So's Greece, though. Which is the cradle of Western civilisation. So's Spain, which spend centuries
under Moorish rule. So's Sicily and Southern Italy. Are these places less European than - say - Bradford?
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Dont be silly, they've been fighting wars over how asian/european christian/muslim they are for ever
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That's just Bradford for you though. What about the others?
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Waheeeey!
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I wish i was sorry, i really do.
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I specifically said that i didnt own one
You cant say anything these days :banghead:
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So you equate Chrisitanity with being European and Asian with Islamic?
How very quaint of you, j.