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:shrug: I pay for my season tickets, I pay for my Sky and BT subscriptions. Why, I even pay for MotD via my TV licence.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
I'm not sure what more you would like me to pay. Replica shirts aren't my thing, really. Sorry.
So presumably you think fans of middling clubs almost certain to finish no higher than midtable every year but still enjoy supporting their club are...what? Weird? Pathetic?Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
With respect, and in all seriousness, this may well reflect the difference between the 'local' supporter and the foreign latecomer or, indeed, long distance fan. Those chaps one sees in Mumbai or Lagos are undoubtedly enthusiastic on cup final day when we win, but would, of course, desert us in droves if we were relegated, lacking as they do a real emotional and cultural connection to the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
NTTAWWI, of course. It's just a different view.
Not at all, the context is entirely different. In fact, the way I would support Arsenal would be different depending on the time I supported them. I had precisely no expectations from 69-72 other than the odd Cup run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
However we are now one of the 10 richest clubs in the world so I think it is reasonable to expect us to challenge for our domestic league title most years. To fail to do so 7 or 8 years in a row for the same reason is just really dull and doesn't leave me frothing even slightly.
No, that's fair enough, I reckon. Appearances *are* important though, as you know; in a war, it's crucial that the wrong sort don't get to control the airwaves, the images, the media generally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Just sayin'.
:thumbup: I'll buy you a drink at our first home game.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
Yes, I think there is some truth to that. Although I would point out that I've lived in the UK for over 20 years, had a season ticket for 6 years (during which time we won precisely nothing) and was slightly obsessive about Arsenal during those years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
But ultimately, getting old dulled my enthusiasm slightly and watching the same thing year after year became dull.
I know, you think we've been mis-managed and should be doing better. But the fact is, we *are* now one of those middling clubs to which I alluded, guaranteed to finish no higher than second every season. So are you honestly claiming that if we didn't have as much money, your current interest levels would be greater?Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
I'm sure ageing dulls the enthusiasm of most balanced adults, really, but the emotional response that comes from falling in love with the sight of that pitch when you were ten years old, growing up fighting (verbally or even physically) for your team at school every day, never really leaves you, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
Excuse me, I am frothing at the mouth. Right now. This minute.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92