I'm somewhat confused by the fact that Indians appear to have chosen a Sikh mascot

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Originally Posted by Herbette Chapman - aged 15

Oh I see, that now makes perfect sense. His propensity for spouting incomprehensible gibbersih had led me to ponder if he had, perhaps, been kicked in the head by a horse as a small child.

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Speaking of which, I miss Snin. :-(

Another reason to never, ever, ever visit India.

I had an American chap recently tell me about some golden triangle or some such in India that was his greatest ever holiday.

I pointed out that it was a filthy, backward, misogynistic **** hole where you could easily end up with a life altering disease by simply eating the wrong thing.

We agreed to disagree but I don't think he forgave me. :-)

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

Another reason to never, ever, ever visit India.

I had an American chap recently tell me about some golden triangle or some such in India that was his greatest ever holiday.

I pointed out that it was a filthy, backward, misogynistic **** hole where you could easily end up with a life altering disease by simply eating the wrong thing.

We agreed to disagree but I don't think he forgave me. :-)

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I have to say that a chap who goes on holiday in Dubai probably ought not to be using the insult 'backward, misogynistic shïthole' about other holiday destinations.

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

Another reason to never, ever, ever visit India.

I had an American chap recently tell me about some golden triangle or some such in India that was his greatest ever holiday.

I pointed out that it was a filthy, backward, misogynistic **** hole where you could easily end up with a life altering disease by simply eating the wrong thing.

We agreed to disagree but I don't think he forgave me. :-)

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It is all the things you mention, undoubtedly, but for some reason it gets under your skin and draws you back. I've been three times; I've been revolted, disgusted, accosted, insulted and poisoned, but on the other hand I've met with unbelievablke kindness and hospitality and I've seen and experienced things beyond your imagining. I will be returning next year.

That is the beauty oif travel, wes. It broadens the mind.

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Originally Posted by Burney

I have to say that a chap who goes on holiday in Dubai probably ought not to be using the insult 'backward, misogynistic shïthole' about other holiday destinations.

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I don't go on holiday in Dubai, I go on holiday in Fujairah. To a five star resort which serves wonderful food that never makes you ill and insulates you from the locals. Horses for courses n all that.

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Originally Posted by Sir C

It is all the things you mention, undoubtedly, but for some reason it gets under your skin and draws you back. I've been three times; I've been revolted, disgusted, accosted, insulted and poisoned, but on the other hand I've met with unbelievablke kindness and hospitality and I've seen and experienced things beyond your imagining. I will be returning next year.

That is the beauty oif travel, wes. It broadens the mind.

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Well yeah, but you can experience all those things in countries where you don't have to worry about your wife being assaulted and the food is both wonderful and safe.

So why go to India then? BTW, I would say the same thing about Africa. I shall never frequent either simply because there are far more interesting, beautiful, safer places.

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

I don't go on holiday in Dubai, I go on holiday in Fujairah. To a five star resort which serves wonderful food that never makes you ill and insulates you from the locals. Horses for courses n all that.

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'5 star resort' :hehe:

Back in the day, the hotel star rating system was easily comprehensible. Stars from 1 - 4 were awarded for facilities, tea-making facilities, a bar, a restaurant, room service, a swimming pool - these things were all considered and a rating awarded. 5 stars were given to hotels with all the 4 star facilities but with the addition of truly exceptional service. Until the 1980s these Great Hotels were obvious. In London, the Ritz, Savoy and Claridges. In Paris, the Crillon and Georges V, in Amsterdam, Krasnapolsky and l'Europe, in Berlin Vier Jahreszeiten - these eminent establishments built reputations for luxury and service over generations.

Then wealth became democratised and people of the lower orders were allowed access to foreign travel. The lower orders go on holiday to places like Dubai and don't recognise or understand quality, they just want everything as vulgar as possible, and so 5 stars were awarded to these hideous, foul, utlimately vulgar shítpits to attract a certain clientele. And it worked :-(

I cannot tell you how much the death of quality and glamour pains me. I hope you're happy with what you have done to the world.

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

Well yeah, but you can experience all those things in countries where you don't have to worry about your wife being assaulted and the food is both wonderful and safe.

So why go to India then? BTW, I would say the same thing about Africa. I shall never frequent either simply because there are far more interesting, beautiful, safer places.

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I'm sorry but I cannot engage in this conversation with you. You are either a fúcking mental case or you're yanking my chain.

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Originally Posted by Sir C

'5 star resort' :hehe:

Back in the day, the hotel star rating system was easily comprehensible. Stars from 1 - 4 were awarded for facilities, tea-making facilities, a bar, a restaurant, room service, a swimming pool - these things were all considered and a rating awarded. 5 stars were given to hotels with all the 4 star facilities but with the addition of truly exceptional service. Until the 1980s these Great Hotels were obvious. In London, the Ritz, Savoy and Claridges. In Paris, the Crillon and Georges V, in Amsterdam, Krasnapolsky and l'Europe, in Berlin Vier Jahreszeiten - these eminent establishments built reputations for luxury and service over generations.

Then wealth became democratised and people of the lower orders were allowed access to foreign travel. The lower orders go on holiday to places like Dubai and don't recognise or understand quality, they just want everything as vulgar as possible, and so 5 stars were awarded to these hideous, foul, utlimately vulgar shítpits to attract a certain clientele. And it worked :-(

I cannot tell you how much the death of quality and glamour pains me. I hope you're happy with what you have done to the world.

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As you may know, I have been to Manoir Quat Saisons many times. I won't bother with the list 3 Michelin star restaurants I have eaten in or the truly luxurious hotels in which I have stayed. And I can assure you that the service and food at the hotel in Fujairah is exceptional. I would also freely admit it has too many 'vulgar' people for someone as snobby as you.

But I don't share your hatred of the working class so am more than happy to have 7-10 days of relaxation, wonderful weather and excellent drink and food there every year. If you can't enjoy yourself without exclusivity, than that's your problem.

I won't think any less of you for it, I promise. :-)

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I'm sorry but I cannot engage in this conversation with you. You are either a fúcking mental case or you're yanking my chain.

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People like Africa for two reasons only. Firstly, the animals. OK, I get it, it's cheetah and you can't find cheetahs in the wild in England. So f*cking what, it's just a f*cking animal. You'll get a better and more interesting view from Attenborough's programs but without the associated danger, bad food and **** accommodation. Secondly, because it makes insecure white people feel superior. But I'm not insecure so I have no need to feel superior.

Africa is ****. FACT