Perhaps, on an individual level and for a time, the Scots were
Now they mostly just restrict their creativity to things they can either fry or stab.
Actually, we're historically one of the most politically radical and progressive nations on earth.
HQK&R is at least right on that score. Thatcher was very much heir to that slightly dour, humourless, protestant/non-conformist radical tradition of parsimony, continence and duty that, while it is not the most attractive facet of the English people, is the bit that actually gets sh*t done.
See also the abolition of the slave trade; the industrial revolution; birth of the labour movement, etc, etc, etc.
everyone on here have different views on here
She divided a lot of people
She most certainly did not, modd.
Henry VIII now - he did divide a lot of people.
I sometimes wonder whether hating one's own country so bitterly is just an inverted
manifestation of patriotism.
I'm no fan of imperialism, chauvinism or aggressive warmongery but I don't hate my own country. On the contrary.
I'm not sure about radical or progressive, perhaps conscience tinged pragmatism is more accurate
And anyway, in terms of Wilberforce and the Labour Movement, I'm pretty sure Thatch would have dismissed both as 'wets' and naieve idealists.
She was more fond of the Burkean/Hobbsean than she was Thomas Paine.
i understand what you mean
Just saying some love her and some hate get. But at least unlike modern.politicans you knew where she stood
I dont really think of myself as having a country
But the idea of familiarity breeding contempt probably holds fairly true there.
agree. even though uk not perfect
I still think we good country at heart
