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If your critics are reduced to shooting you in the neck in front of your wife and kids from 600 feet away, you were probably a good man, the good guy.
Violence is the last resort of the incompetent. Poor kids :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
If you think that abortion's a bigger crime than slavery you're probably a bit of a wrong'un.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
Though he did say: “You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won’t have a single gun death. That is nonsense. It’s drivel.
“I think it’s worth it. I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights,”
Lol. Silly, Septic gun-nut says it's ok for innocent Yanks to be shot dead cos it protects them from King George's Redcoats. And then gets shot dead by some other silly, Septic gun-nut.
You couldn't make it up. {Well, you could. That's the point. Highly predictable.}
Leftism is a disease. See this moron for confirmation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
Right. Blame the parents :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Absolutely... Poor Gnapti has succumed to the mind virus. Red is right below - it stems from weak parenting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Shameful.
Leftism is no worse than rightism or gun fetishism. They're all a waste of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
But if you do spout on about how it's worth it for a few innocents to get shot every year because having no gun laws is more important, then many Brits of all political persuasions will snigger into their G&Ts when you get shot by some fellow Septic gun nut.
I couldn't less whether the victim is from the left, the right or the suburbs of Timbuktu. When a Septic gun evangelist gets shot by a fellow Septic, I find it hilarious.
One day they'll learn that they no longer need AR15s to protect them from King George's Redcoats.
And then at some point after that, they'll apologise for being traitors in the 1770s and pay us compensation.
Fact: of the 44k gun deaths in Septicland last year, over half were Septics blowing their own brains out.
Idiotic race, they really are. But what do you expect from simians who think rounders is a national sport?
I would point out that both you and C erroneously saw my comment through your own culture war prism. You immediately assumed that because I laughed at the right-winger assassinated by the left winger, I must be a lefty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich
When any {even vaguely} neutral reading of my words would have made clear that I was just laughing at Yank gun laws.
Do I find it hilarious that JFK did nothing about gun laws and then got shot? Hell yeah.
Would I find it hilarious if the head of the Alabama chapter of JKRowlingMustDie got shot dead by a fellow Septic gun nut? Hell yeah.
So which of us has really been affected by the culture war mind virus?
Well, I would say all that but I'm afraid that as with most culture warriors of both left and right, you lack the critical self-analysis to objectively question your position. My tribe, good. Everyone else, bad.
But ignore yourself and get back to me. Do you really think I'd have spent my entire adult life getting away from the rest of the normal humans if I was a lefty? I would care about the normal world and would be doing my bit to make it better by fighting the right.
Instead, I just travelled around with our posse, getting off our tits, and blagging the state that the left love so much.
So while we may have had dreadlocks and not washed, our own politics was far closer to libertarianism than to socialism.
But why let facts and analysis get in the way.
You right. Your side right. Bad man makes joke about one of my side being shot. Bad man lefty.
Dead God. No matter what you may have heard on whatever website you read, real anarchists are not lefties. Not our sort anyway. It's more of a bourgeois, bohemian libertarianism. It's far too selfish for socialism. We'll put our sound systems up in that field or warehouse whether you like it or not and rob the diesel and supermarkets before we leave.
We're not lefties, mate. We treated our immediate environment in a similar way to how big oil or extractive capitalism treated the planet as a whole. So who am I to slag them off from the left? Let he without sin etc.
It's you that's been infected by the culture war virus. The fact that you only think you're enemy's side {woke} is the virus is proof of my statement.
My tribe good, your tribe bad. It's like a facking prep school playground.
You think it is funny that Kennedy got shot? Strange sense of humour you have....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
I've always thought the second amendment was ridiculous. A well regulated militia whose rights can not be abridged? Doesn't sound very well regulated to me.......
Archaic crap. But that is federalism for you. 300 million people who are only held together by a 250 year old document and a flag.
Isn't it crazy that on X, formerly known as Twitter, I can end up watching videos I never asked for, one of a young woman being stabbed to death with sheer terror on her face, another of Charlie Kirk's neck basically exploding with blood, just because they autoplay on the homepage as soon as I open the app? Yet if a woman posts a video of herself stroking her breasts, I'm forced to go through age verification. What a mad world.
Yes, I do. They think they all need guns to protect them from King George's Redcoats, blissfully unaware that their AR15 isn't gonna do much against an Apache Gunship, an F-35 and their accompanying drone swarm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
But because they can't get their heads round this, they still shoot each other in school. The day that Maga kiddie was shot, 2 more died when a 16 year old shot up his school and then topped himself.
Nation of gun-nut peasants. JFK was in power for 2-3 years and if he'd tried to stop their gun obsession, I'd have sympathy. He didn't. He believed in their constitutional right to arm bears so any Grizzly can walk in off the street and come out of Brad's Guns'n'Bibles Store with an AK and what happens? He got shot. And the guy who shot him got shot.
That's what happens if you think a fear of King George sending some redcoats to oppress you justifies your kids getting shot in their classrooms.
That's exactly what this silly Maga kiddie said. And he got shot. Maybe he should have put the bible down and found out what karma is. Or actually, looked up the bit about Do Unto Others in his bible. He thought it fine for other innocents to get shot to keep their constitutional right to arm bears. Seems like the Little Baby Jesus decided to impose the do unto others on him, so he can't complain.
Backward species, they really are. What's wrong with a couple of snooker balls in a sock?
It's almost as if our Arsenal mate Ganpati believes that there cannot possibly be a "Septic" around here in this very closed part of the World Wide Web.
As the Maga kiddie said, if you give everyone guns, innocent people will die.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Arrowhead
He, and his fellow Americans, think that's fine.
Personally, I'm glad I'm sitting here in my safe European home.
If you think grizzlies with AKs is worth a school full of kids being shot up every couple of months then fine. Your country, your democratic right.
In Aus, they had a mass shooting around the same time as Dunblane. Like us, they basically banned guns. That was the '90s. How many mass shootings since in either UK or Aus? And how many in the US?
You lot want guns. You openly admit gun deaths is a price you're willing to pay. So don't come crying to me when one of you gets shot by another one of you.
And btw, despite neither of us having loads of guns any more, King George's redcoats haven't come and oppressed us in either GB or Aus. Strange that. Or maybe we just missed it happening cos we were watching the cricket.
I like The Clash reference, but your safe European home isn't really that safe. Safer than it would be if we shoved 100,000 guns on the streets, admittedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
I think the broader point is the the right to own a gun doesn't give you the right to shoot people. And as much as you might present these episodes as a result of the law, drawing pleasure, or bragging rights, from it is rather distasteful. And, if I might venture, rather unbritish.....
That is aside from any discussion about the Kennedy assassination being anything to do with gun controls......
Maybe my exaggeration clouded the point but "Safer than it would be if we shoved 100,000 guns on the streets, admittedly." was the only real point I'd intended to make.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
{As an aside, all those Reform types who think London is full of no-go zones - while ignoring the fact that knife crime's hugely down - all support US gun laws. But maybe they think only gore {whites} should have guns?}
Para 2: I don't really want to spend all day discussing this point but if owning a gun doesn't give you the right to shoot someone, then why own it? Why should society take that risk - the risk the Maga kiddie openly supported - just cos some middle aged racist wants to forget how small his willy is?
Para 3: Again, that was meant as an aside. That point was simply to shut C etc up. I'm not some tribal lefty. {Though I am prob. a tribal, anti-gun Brit.} So I will treat them all the same whether they are Magas, wokes, or centrist heroes. Those who insist on their constitutional right to give AKs to grizzlies can't moan if they get shot.
{And again, I haven't seen any redcoats oppressing us or the Convicts since we both banned guns.}
I'm not disagreeing with you but I do think the idea of creating strict gun laws is a bit difficult. These people really believe in this ****. They're not going to drop their guns off at the tip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
And as for the amendment itself, I think we can all agree the US possesses a pretty well regulated militia.
I didn't like this Charlie character at all, I thought he was a ****. But I'm horrified he got killed.
In reverse order:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Para 3: Yes, we shouldn't have to say this but the gun has no place in democratic politics no matter how vile I find my opponent. But a: he came over and lectured us in Blighty about how we don't have free speech here. We responded by tutting cos that's what we do. He went back to the land of free speech and got shot dead while speaking. Again, no-one deserves to be shot but don't come over 'ere and lecture me, bruv.
Also, I find it funny that he literally said a few dead innocents was a fair price to pay. Or did he mean other innocents, just not him or his loved ones? In which case his hypocrisy reeks even more. Look, if in 7 years time we do a massive free rave for the 40th anniversary of Castlemorton and I get up on to the roof of the warehouse like in the old days, but I do so much K and Spesh I end up dancing over the edge and falling to my death, you lot would be perfectly entitled to laugh at me. Unlike him, I don't think dead ravers is a price worth paying. But I do know the risks I take getting off my head on the roof.
I think the reaction of the left is despicable. But he did say that innocent deaths are a price worth paying.
Para 2: Exactly. In 1776, a musket and some non-uniformed camo normal clothing helped beat our redcoats. An AR15 is no use against an Apache gunship, an F-35B, a swarm of drones and an ICBM. Pretending otherwise is pathetic. So this save us from the redcoats stuff is just nonsense. They just have a gun fetish and in all probability, what they really worry about is black people being armed while they're not.
Para 1: I fully agree. I don't wanna come over all Irish but it terms of outlawing guns, I wouldn't start from here if I were them. I don't claim to have a solution. All I claim is that if you fetishise your guns laws to such an extent that you think dead innocents is an acceptable price to pay, don't ask me not to laugh when you get shot. Especially when you've just come back from telling us we don't have free speech while you do.
I know Yanks don't get irony, and I accept that I'm going beyond irony into sarcasm and it's not very pleasant to use irony to hurt a family who are grieving a murdered love one, but I doubt they read Awimb and I never claimed to be pleasant.
Guns and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.
"I know Yanks don't get irony, and I accept that I'm going beyond irony into sarcasm and it's not very pleasant to use irony to hurt a family who are grieving a murdered l
ove one, but I doubt they read Awimb and I never claimed to be pleasant."
Too right, mate. Bloody Septics are too thick to find their way here, unless their thick, gunpowder stained fingers happened to get them here by mistake. They should stick to rounders.
If a Septic would happen to stumble in here, he would quickly realise he is no intellectual match for a seasoned geezer like yourself who has had decades of brain altering substances that has honed his mind to peak reason and logic, the kind you can only get from an elephant with a turban.
Just a polite and innocent question, Chief. But you do you currently own a firearm? :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Arrowhead
Come on Chief, it was won Septic wot was shot. Not all of you. I didn't tweet it or post it on the Fox News Facebook page. I posted it here. Where's there's only about half a dozen of us and we're probably all just Tony C's different log ins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Arrowhead
I have various firearms, . A quick inventory. ..
22 for shooting
5 for hunting
3 I carry
Ganpati: You have pretty much made any opinions you have irrelevant. Thus makes me sad because you have some excellent opinions about The Arsenal.
That does sound like a ****load of guns. An Arsenal, even :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Arrowhead
I don't even own a half decent bread knife..... then again you can't get half decent bread these days....
This isn't meant to be a criticism (well, it kind of is) but have you ever actually been to the US?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
You have what appears to be a very one-dimensional view of a country that is far too large, complex and diverse to be captured in one dimension.
Some of the nicest and most welcoming, down to earth people I've ever met. Although your Texan can be a bit touchy:-)
It's pretty much for fun, or hunting. Only almost drawn once where this guy was beating the **** out of this woman. I cleared my throat and showed. He scampered and then I assisted in her distress. I don't see anything like our Arsenal brother talks about, but then he must know because he's a world wide drug taker so I defer to his self-appointed superiority.
I love the US, would move there in a heartbeat. Key West, happily retire there. Austin Grand Prix is on my bucket list as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
I haven't seen nearly enough of it but I'll be putting that right over the next 5 or 10 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
Assuming they let me in :-)
We've had a Sabatier bread knife like this won for decades and it still works a treat:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
https://www.sabatierknivesuk.co.uk/s...lastic-handle/
But why does a man need even more guns than the glw has shoes?
Done East and West coasts, Vegas plus Atlanta (now that is an odd city), would like to do Texas and Mid-West.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Of course I have. You really think I wouldn't have lived on Haight St? Bit like living in the 'Dam or in Goa, it's a sort of crusty boy scout badge you're expected to get at some point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
But only Cali - mostly SF and a while in LA once {which is by far the worst city I've ever visited. How can a first world city of 10m people not have a metro? SF's far smaller but their BART public transport system is perfectly serviceable.}
Different places appeal to different people. Reading the BTL comments in the Times, for example, and you see many Brits detest Parisians yet WES and I both love the gaff.
Likewise, many people would hate India. {And it's totally different if you're a woman, and that's from my glw who's been there loads on her own and speaks Hindi now. She says I still don't get just how differently she's treated when she's not with me.} But I love India.
America just seemed boring and backwards. The cities are grid systems, the food's vile, they seem relatively ignorant of the world beyond their borders and they've somehow misinterpreted the {crypto-Buddhist} words of Jesus and changed Turn The Other Cheek into shoot thy neighbour and Do Unto Others into do as we say, not as we do.
As with Tottnumb and Chelsea, I just don't like the place. {And I've never been to Manchester - just like I'd never go to China. Bet they're both worse than the US.} Individually, the people are lovely. So friendly and considerate. But when you have 300m of them brainwashed by their extremist capitalist system, it all turns sour.
However the white fluff crystal LSD you get in San Fran is by far the best on the planet.
So you have 30 guns. 2 questions:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Arrowhead
1. Why on earth do you need to carry three of them? You've only got two hands. Doesn't it weigh you down?
2. Do you agree with the Maga kiddie that innocent Yanks {including school kids} getting shot is a price worth paying for your right to arm bears?
I don't think he means he carries all 3 at the same time. Options :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
So because you've never seen a school shooting, they don't happen despite the papers reporting them every few months?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Arrowhead
This is my point. I'd rather not live in a country where kids get shot in school. Or where people giving a political speech get shot by someone who disagrees with them. I don't think that is a price worth paying to protect me from an overbearing state.
And you don't need to show a gun to stop someone battering their GF. I find a can of Spesh in a plastic bag works just as well. Dealt with two muggers on the South Circular by Brixton Hill who threatened me with a knife using that. I was coming back from the offie and had a four-pack in my bag. "Your knife has a range of a few inches beyond your arm, mate. My Spesh in a bag adds over a foot to my range and if it connects with your head, I'll floor you. So I suggest you feck off back up the hill."
You like guns, I like Spesh. To quote Danny the drug dealer in Withnail & I "Why trust one drug and not the other? That's politics, innit?"
2 on the bench. Depth :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
I don't want to speak for the Chief but I guess part of his answer would be that his muggers would probably be carrying a gun. You don't take a can of special brew to a gun fight....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
And why special, anyway? You weren't a Super T man? :-)
Ah, gotcha. So it is like girls and shoes.Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
I agree with you that it seems impossible to ban guns there given how many they have. But I'd rather not live in a country where kids get shot at school. If no-one had guns, no-one would get shot. That is a simple statement of fact.
Of course. But you have to bear in mind that you would think that. You're British. I've never even held a gun. They are completely alien to our way of life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
This isn't true in America. They see it in the reverse- if that guy has a gun, I need one.
It's a conversation between two different realities. I am far happier with ours, but I don't have to live in theirs.
You are of course correct about the dysfunction in their politics. But we are hardly in a place to criticise that. Look at that ****ing bull**** in London at the weekend.
Knives, hammers, etc. It's not the gun that kills people, it's the person pulling the trigger. Unfortunately, with a larger population you will have more lunatics. Thing is 20 years ago, these nutters would have been locked up or not allowed to be such entitled bitches that think the world owes them a ****ing favour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
Do you reckon one of his guns is like Noni and after carrying that one for a few weeks, he then wonders how he'll still be able to carry it when his B gun gets back from the menders?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
I do accept that given our club's history, we can't really moan about our fans like the Chief having guns. I think he should get a c.1900 3" field gun like the won we have on our badge. He could tow it behind his car.
Genuine question - are they allowed to own field artillery? I mean, they have these bump stocks that turns a semi-automatic rifle into what's effectively a machine gun. That nutter used that when he killed about 50 people at a gig in Vegas. It would be safer for the Yanks if they banned the bump stocks and allowed them to have field artillery pieces instead. You wouldn't be able to get it up in the hotel lift for a start, so they'd have to start their killing sprees from the car park which would make it easier for the cops to catch them. It would be harder to load one single-handedly in a school corridor as well. Give the kids more time to leg it. And it would have a greater chance of taking out an Apache gunship full of redcoats than an AR15 would.
I am a fan of the old cannon, civil war era....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
Although I guess my great, great, great grandfather wasn't. He was at the charge of the light brigade......