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Wenger is clearly a genius. I mean, he's got 50 points, and the other manager with 50 points, Pochettino, is generally lauded as the Greatest Thing That's Ever Happened To Football, so the same must be true of Wenger. Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
You forgot to log in as Monty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
However I think if we are to win league some how we would have to win all of our remaining games.
Silly Arsenal have got me fooled into thinking we will beat Bayern this time.
This is clearly not based on form.
No, not really. Because only a silly person would judge a manager based solely on where they sit in the table at any given time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
It's rather more complicated than that. Easier to just stop caring, anyway. :thumbup:
We're not going to win all our remaining games, and Chelsea aren't going to drop 10 points, I'm afraid. And at the moment I can't see a way past Bayern, unless we stumble across a rich vein of form somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
So one doesn't judge a manger by results?Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
OK.
I have calculated Chelsea will drop 7 points guaranteed using fash science.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
the additional 3 will have to come from results such as yesterday.
We are usually told to judge him in May. In May we are told let's see what next season brings.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
The Baby Jesus does not like this :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Surely it depends on the expectations of the club before the season begins.. a manager at Chelsea and Arsenal (for example) willbe judged completely differently than a manager at West Brom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
So it isn't all about results
So Pochettino is all that's wonderful because Spurs expect to be shĂ*t, and Wenger is useless because Arsenal expect to win the league?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
I've heard some nonsense in my time, but this probably takes the chocolate Hob Nob.
Yes. Essentially it is the argument of the spoilt brat who expects to get a top of the range bike for Christmas and is outraged when they receive the lower-spec version versus the relatively impoverished child who does not expect the top-of-the-range bike and for whom the the lower-spec version is more than they ever expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
:nod: This is also expressed by the whine, 'But the club told us that we were moving to the Emirates in order to win things'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
One is reminded almost daily of Spoilt Bástard from Viz. Timmy's everywhere.
Um, no. That's not what I said and you know it. Now stop it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Speaking of people with low expectations, I liked this quote:Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
"every member of the shadow cabinet is capable of becoming leader."
Weren't about half them incapable of gaining a place in the shadow cabinet six months ago
Sorry, I don't remember saying either of those things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
MP is judged as he SEEMS to be improving Spurs each season, AW is judged as Arsenal seem to be treading water every season
To be fair, dear old Jezza has really lowered the bar in terms of qualifications to be leader. Anyone capable of going a day without saying or doing something that drops them two percentage points in the polls is now considered stunningly over-qualified.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Mind you, I did like that description of Angela Rayner as "a bit charity shop-looking” and “weird” :hehe:
I do believe Gazidis said the move to the Grove was to enable us to "compete with any club in the world"
That sort of statement does sort of set a level of expectation for fans.
I didn't realise he only meant competing on a financial level. . .
edit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/20220153
Well, yes. 'Compete'. Not 'win everything every year because it will be easy.'Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
Is there no way they could get Ken Loach in?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Dear God, but that mendacious, agitprop-producing communist needs shooting! He's basically made a living by libelling his own country in order to please a bunch of fat, lefty frogs at Cannes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Mind you, he's 80 and a relic of a bygone age. He'll be dead soon. :cloud9:
I am not sure I have ever read anywhere people claiming that Pochetinno is the best thing ever, which in itself renders your entire contribution a nonsense. As pointed out earlier (by Fash I think), it is the sort of utterly ridiculous ****e which we expect from Monty, not you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Tell that to ManukrishnanQuote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
https://www.sportskeeda.com/football...premier-league
Hyperbole is a linguistic device, using exaggeration to make a point. I can appreciate that you might struggle with such advanced reading and comprehension.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
I'll try to keep things a bit simpler for you in future, sw :thumbup:
Good man, patronising and arrogant by 10:30 on the Monday morning. You're on form.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
We should perhaps make allowance for a drop of hyperbole, but the praise is fullsome:Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
"Best manager in England" - Alex Ferguson
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...uricio-7342521
"One of world’s best managers" - Pep Guardiola
https://www.theguardian.com/football...ham-best-world
"My favourite Premier League coach" - Gary Neville
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...m-Hotspur.html
and the clincher:
"The best or definitely one of the best in the world" - Harry Kane
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foot...-a3442851.html
You started the day by dismissing my opinion as 'utterly ridiculous shĂ*te', so telling me I'm patronising and arrogant is quite hysterical.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
Stop bickering, the pair of you. Honestly, why can't people just be nice?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
They're both Irish, bQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
It's just like being at the Emirates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Not that I would know I haven't been in ages.
I made a perfectly reasonable point and he wades in, as usual, with his ill-mannered vulgarity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Probably still pĂ*ssed.
I am prepared to accept an apology if it is suitably grovelling.
So are we, but we're models of civility. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
I apologise to no man when I have done no wrong.
I'll accept yours for your insult earlier and implying I have made comments about AW and MPQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
You do realise you are talking to LAQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Why don't you just both strip naked and have a bit of a wrestle to break the sexual tension, you pair of queens?Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
Eh, I strip naked and wrestle with no man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
I am not sure I can speak for Dutch, each to their own and all that.
Come now A, each media soundbite sillier than the previous one and each ludicrous claim probably levelled at Wenger at some point in his reign, and Mourinho, not yet Pep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
Silly.
I'm just saying that all this butting heads is clearly just sublimating your deeper feelings for one another. NTTAWWI :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
Surely it isn't so outlandish to suggest that there might be such a thing the best manager in England?Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2