So the Times says we are completely reliant on 4 players

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11-28-2024, 03:34 PM
WES

So the Times says we are completely reliant on 4 players

Odegaard - yes
Saka - maybe
Saliba - yes
Rice - maybe

What say ye AWIMB? :judge:
11-28-2024, 03:58 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by WES

Odegaard - yes
Saka - maybe
Saliba - yes
Rice - maybe

What say ye AWIMB? :judge:

They’re our four best players. Of course we’re reliant on them.

Saliba might be the best thing I’ve seen in an Arsenal shirt since Cesc.
11-28-2024, 05:12 PM
Peter

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Originally Posted by WES

Odegaard - yes
Saka - maybe
Saliba - yes
Rice - maybe

What say ye AWIMB? :judge:

Every team is reliant on their best players. Whether they are our four best players or not is arguable. Perhaps Partey, or even Raya would be in there. Either way, it is a pretty stupid argument to make in the first place.
11-29-2024, 10:38 AM
Luis Anaconda

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Originally Posted by Peter

Every team is reliant on their best players. Whether they are our four best players or not is arguable. Perhaps Partey, or even Raya would be in there. Either way, it is a pretty stupid argument to make in the first place.

Would definitely put Raya in the top group
11-29-2024, 10:51 AM
WES

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Originally Posted by Peter

Every team is reliant on their best players. Whether they are our four best players or not is arguable. Perhaps Partey, or even Raya would be in there. Either way, it is a pretty stupid argument to make in the first place.

Well the unstated context is that these are players that we could not win the league if we were to lose them for an extended period i.e. for the remainder of the season.

I would agree on Ode and Saliba, the others i?m not convinced.
11-29-2024, 11:45 AM
Peter

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Originally Posted by WES

Well the unstated context is that these are players that we could not win the league if we were to lose them for an extended period i.e. for the remainder of the season.

I would agree on Ode and Saliba, the others i?m not convinced.

Over an extended period, we would really struggle without Saka. While Odegaard is essential to how we play, Saka is comfortably our biggest goal and creative threat. On his good days he is totally unplayable. On his bad days, he still creates real problems for opponents. And he doesn't have too many bad days.

It is undeniable that our results would definitely suffer if our best players were out for an extended period, but it is evidently true of everyone else. That's all I meant by saying it is a silly point. Look at what has happened to City without Rodri, and it isn't even new. Over the last few years there is a marked difference in their results with and without him. And that is just one player, and in one of the best sides the Premier League has ever seen. Take Salah out of the Liverpool side for the next 10 games and see what happens.

I have a feeling we would cope ok without Saliba, although mainly if White was fit.
11-29-2024, 01:16 PM
redgunamo

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Originally Posted by WES

Odegaard - yes
Saka - maybe
Saliba - yes
Rice - maybe

What say ye AWIMB? :judge:

Four players and one set piece coach.
12-02-2024, 09:06 AM
PSRB

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Originally Posted by Peter

Over an extended period, we would really struggle without Saka. While Odegaard is essential to how we play, Saka is comfortably our biggest goal and creative threat. On his good days he is totally unplayable. On his bad days, he still creates real problems for opponents. And he doesn't have too many bad days.

It is undeniable that our results would definitely suffer if our best players were out for an extended period, but it is evidently true of everyone else. That's all I meant by saying it is a silly point. Look at what has happened to City without Rodri, and it isn't even new. Over the last few years there is a marked difference in their results with and without him. And that is just one player, and in one of the best sides the Premier League has ever seen. Take Salah out of the Liverpool side for the next 10 games and see what happens.

I have a feeling we would cope ok without Saliba, although mainly if White was fit.

Saka is also getting better and better, mixes up cutting in with going on the outside and is far more comfortable on his right (the pass to Trossard with his right for the goal at the weekend), so defenders no longer have a clue what he'll do.
12-02-2024, 11:49 AM
Peter

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Originally Posted by PSRB

Saka is also getting better and better, mixes up cutting in with going on the outside and is far more comfortable on his right (the pass to Trossard with his right for the goal at the weekend), so defenders no longer have a clue what he'll do.

Yes. He works on his game all the time, looking for things he can do better. He's always had a great attitude to his game. The best players usually do.

I wouldn't swap him for any other player in the Premier League.