The person we should be moaning about isn’t the ref

[WES]

it’s Saka.

How do you not try to stay on your feet and finish that, in that position???

Fewmin 🤬

[7sisters]

it’s Saka.

How do you not try to stay on your feet and finish that, in that position???

Fewmin 🤬

I feel we’ve blown it anyway. You really have to win your home legs at this stage of the competition.
It’s a cliche perhaps but we’re still a bit short of quality at the very top level.

[redgunamo]

it’s Saka.

How do you not try to stay on your feet and finish that, in that position???

Fewmin 🤬

You've certainly seen them given. But Manuel Neuer is the best 'keeper of his generation for good reason; he has that aura even now.

Bukayo had beaten him earlier but face-to-face like that is a different matter entirely. Add in all the defenders there mopping up; he, I think, felt, in that moment, that he had a better chance from the spot.

[redgunamo]

I feel we’ve blown it anyway. You really have to win your home legs at this stage of the competition.
It’s a cliche perhaps but we’re still a bit short of quality at the very top level.

On the other hand, BM will be very disappointed and WORRIED that they couldn't even beat the Arsenal even after we gifted them two goals.

[IUFG]

it’s Saka.

How do you not try to stay on your feet and finish that, in that position???

Fewmin ��

Harsh imo.

Under performers, last night...

Raya
Kiwior
Jorginho
Martinelli

:judge:

[PSRB]

it’s Saka.

How do you not try to stay on your feet and finish that, in that position???

Fewmin 🤬

:rubchin: Kane shouldn't have been on the pitch and I'm sorry, that's a penalty

[Peter]

it’s Saka.

How do you not try to stay on your feet and finish that, in that position???

Fewmin ��

The pace and touch inside takes him right into the defender who is blocking his path. He could have carried on but he had a lot to do.

He saw the leg and went over it. 90% of the time the ref gives that. And as I have said elsewhere, next week this will get given at the other end.

If you are looking for blame over the result I would suggest looking at the previous 70 minutes. We were largely second best from the minute we gave away that stupid equaliser.

[Peter]

:rubchin: Kane shouldn't have been on the pitch and I'm sorry, that's a penalty

The elbow was 100% deliberate but not convinced it was a red card. There isn't a big swing of the elbow.

[Sir C]

The elbow was 100% deliberate but not convinced it was a red card. There isn't a big swing of the elbow.

:hehe: A deliberate elbow to the face is a red card p, irrespective of the length of the swing.

[Peter]

:hehe: A deliberate elbow to the face is a red card p, irrespective of the length of the swing.

Not if you just 'leave it there'. Similarly, you can deliberately smack someone in the back of the head, off the ball, as long as the main contact is with the arm rather than the fist.

Violent conduct is a red card but 'he knew what he was doing there' can fall short.

In other words, refs can do whatever the hell they want. Or, more accurately, I understand that refs are encouraged to consider the degree of force in assessing violent conduct and/ or endangering an opponent and to prioritise this over intent. Therefore an unintentionally reckless challenge of excessive force is considered worse than an intentional 'challenge' of lesser force.

[pjlincs]

Harsh imo.

Under performers, last night...

Raya
Kiwior
Jorginho
Martinelli

:judge:

TP5 was horrendous! Let's hope we don't have to rely on him at any point during the run-in.

Rice was slightly off the boil (!)

[Peter]

TP5 was horrendous! Let's hope we don't have to rely on him at any point during the run-in.

Rice was slightly off the boil (!)

Ahem...! Partey made a brilliant foul and took his yellow like a man :-)

Zinchenko, a few moments earlier, went on another aimless run, and overran the ball, exposing us to a counter attack. His momentum took him right onto the player he gave the ball to and he had the perfect opportunity to block him and prevent the counter. He didn't.

And this is a guy raised at City, the masters of the tactical foul. :-(

[pjlincs]

Ahem...! Partey made a brilliant foul and took his yellow like a man :-)

Zinchenko, a few moments earlier, went on another aimless run, and overran the ball, exposing us to a counter attack. His momentum took him right onto the player he gave the ball to and he had the perfect opportunity to block him and prevent the counter. He didn't.

And this is a guy raised at City, the masters of the tactical foul. :-(

Why is Tommy third choice left back? I was hoping we'd see him start.

[IUFG]

TP5 was horrendous! Let's hope we don't have to rely on him at any point during the run-in.)

His was merely a cameo of mediocraty.

[IUFG]

Ahem...! Partey made a brilliant foul and took his yellow like a man :-)

Zinchenko, a few moments earlier, went on another aimless run, and overran the ball, exposing us to a counter attack. His momentum took him right onto the player he gave the ball to and he had the perfect opportunity to block him and prevent the counter. He didn't.

And this is a guy raised at City, the masters of the tactical foul. :-(

I thought Zinny did alright when he came on.

He does go on these runs up his own backside on occasion leaving his position untended, but he was still better than Kiwior was.

[Peter]

Why is Tommy third choice left back? I was hoping we'd see him start.

All three of them offer something different. Kiwior is effectively a third centre back allowing White to invert if required. Zinchenko is an inverted full back who can't defend but is technically adept at giving the ball away further up the pitch. Tomiyasu is arguably a better full back than either of them but is not as good at either playing the inverted role or covering it.

And Timber will likely be picked ahead of all three next season :-)

[redgunamo]

All three of them offer something different. Kiwior is effectively a third centre back allowing White to invert if required. Zinchenko is an inverted full back who can't defend but is technically adept at giving the ball away further up the pitch. Tomiyasu is arguably a better full back than either of them but is not as good at either playing the inverted role or covering it.

And Timber will likely be picked ahead of all three next season :-)

lol. It's great to have a SQUAD!

[Chief Arrowhead]

:rubchin: Kane shouldn't have been on the pitch and I'm sorry, that's a penalty

In the PL that would have been a straight red Gabriel for recklessly clattering into Kane's elbow with his neck.

[Peter]

lol. It's great to have a SQUAD!

Indeed. Arteta said he wanted flexibility and now we have it. It just took us a while to learn how to use it.

[pjlincs]

And Timber will likely be picked ahead of all three next season :-)[/QUOTE]

True dat :D