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Pat Vegas
01-07-2024, 06:25 PM
The ‘atmosphere’ at the emirates will be gone soon.

Peter
01-07-2024, 07:00 PM
The ‘atmosphere’ at the emirates will be gone soon.

I think a lot of people started to forget last season that Arteta's time at Arsenal has not been one of straightforward progression. He has experienced quite a few bad spells already and he is definitely in another one now. The things he has tried to add to our game are just not working so far. A spell like this has been on the cards since the start of the season.

Pat Vegas
01-07-2024, 07:06 PM
Our league run last season sort of showed he was going somewhere.

However he seems to have gone backwards on that.
It’s fully his squad now and spend a load of money. Needs to start winning something. And sort out his subs. Saka was awful but never takes him off.

Sir C
01-07-2024, 07:10 PM
The ‘atmosphere’ at the emirates will be gone soon.

Wenger, he ain’t. He’s progressed us to be extremely good at losing.

7sisters
01-07-2024, 07:35 PM
The ‘atmosphere’ at the emirates will be gone soon.

A man has appeared in court after pitching his tent and getting inside a sleeping bag behind the line of Liverpool's goal at the Emirates Stadium. When asked by police why he did it, he said, "It's the one place in London I knew I wouldn't be disturbed.

redgunamo
01-07-2024, 09:31 PM
:-\ We would've been better off JUST scraping into the top-four last season.



I think a lot of people started to forget last season that Arteta's time at Arsenal has not been one of straightforward progression. He has experienced quite a few bad spells already and he is definitely in another one now. The things he has tried to add to our game are just not working so far. A spell like this has been on the cards since the start of the season.

redgunamo
01-07-2024, 09:35 PM
He's doing alright. This time last year, we were ahead of schedule.



Our league run last season sort of showed he was going somewhere.

However he seems to have gone backwards on that.
It’s fully his squad now and spend a load of money. Needs to start winning something. And sort out his subs. Saka was awful but never takes him off.

Peter
01-07-2024, 11:55 PM
:-\ We would've been better off JUST scraping into the top-four last season.

Well, at least over achievement is one of the problems from last season that he has definitely managed to solve.

Pat Vegas
01-08-2024, 08:57 AM
He's doing alright. This time last year, we were ahead of schedule.

is there a copy of this schedule? is it part of the process?
So far he's won a trophy with Unai's* team.

*the team they gave Unai

John Bunnell
01-08-2024, 09:23 AM
Getting knocked out of both domestic cups at the earliest stages two seasons in a row is simply not good enough for this club.

redgunamo
01-08-2024, 10:35 AM
It's like Catch-22. It only actually exists if you BELIEVE it does.



is there a copy of this schedule? is it part of the process?
So far he's won a trophy with Unai's* team.

*the team they gave Unai

Pat Vegas
01-08-2024, 10:40 AM
It's like Catch-22. It only actually exists if you BELIEVE it does.

I just thought it was clever PR by the club to by Arteta time.

They also have smartly got certain online outlets or indviduals on X on their side to push it too. In return they get access to the club press conferences etc.

It's quite clever really, anytime you question anything they brand you as a fool that doesn't understand what Arteta is doing.

redgunamo
01-08-2024, 10:41 AM
Right. Leaving us in a far stronger position from which to try to win the league. No more pressure.

It's almost genius really :-\



Well, at least over achievement is one of the problems from last season that he has definitely managed to solve.

redgunamo
01-08-2024, 10:51 AM
It's certainly PR anyway. And nobody knows what he's doing, not least because he has no previous, no track record by which to judge his methods.

In any case, finishing second in the Premier League last season is nothing to be sniffed at.



I just thought it was clever PR by the club to by Arteta time.

They also have smartly got certain online outlets or indviduals on X on their side to push it too. In return they get access to the club press conferences etc.

It's quite clever really, anytime you question anything they brand you as a fool that doesn't understand what Arteta is doing.

Peter
01-08-2024, 11:41 AM
Right. Leaving us in a far stronger position from which to try to win the league. No more pressure.

It's almost genius really :-\

Almost may become a key word for us :-(

Peter
01-08-2024, 11:42 AM
It's certainly PR anyway. And nobody knows what he's doing, not least because he has no previous, no track record by which to judge his methods.

In any case, finishing second in the Premier League last season is nothing to be sniffed at.

Given the financial climate, and the managers in post at City and Liverpool, one might even argue that what Arteta achieved last season is about as much as we can realistically expect. You might nick a title if City and Liverpool have an off year but failing that....

redgunamo
01-08-2024, 12:31 PM
Plus ça change and a' that. Even the Graham years were squeezed in between two great eras for other clubs.



Given the financial climate, and the managers in post at City and Liverpool, one might even argue that what Arteta achieved last season is about as much as we can realistically expect. You might nick a title if City and Liverpool have an off year but failing that....

7sisters
01-08-2024, 12:58 PM
Given the financial climate, and the managers in post at City and Liverpool, one might even argue that what Arteta achieved last season is about as much as we can realistically expect. You might nick a title if City and Liverpool have an off year but failing that....

City, I accept but Liverpool finished outside the top 4 last season and Klopp was being rounded upon.
They’re a far stronger proposal than last season but not significantly above us. A fit Partey and perhaps Timber doing what he was meant to do at LB and who knows ?
It’s time to move on from Nketiah and that turgid German. If he’s not prepared to run a risk with ESR then he should bite the bullet and cash in while he still carries transfer value.
FFP is clearly an issue in this window and those two could bring in 80m between them. No ones buying a crocked Partey regardless of the press hype.

Peter
01-08-2024, 01:01 PM
City, I accept but Liverpool finished outside the top 4 last season and Klopp was being rounded upon.
They’re a far stronger proposal than last season but not significantly above us. A fit Partey and perhaps Timber doing what he was meant to do at LB and who knows ?
It’s time to move on from Nketiah and that turgid German. If he’s not prepared to run a risk with ESR then he should bite the bullet and cash in while he still carries transfer value.
FFP is clearly an issue in this window and those two could bring in 80m between them. No ones buying a crocked Partey regardless of the press hype.

Liverpool had an awful year last year but have been consistently excellent for a while under Klopp. They will be in the title race this season. THe difference between them and us is they have improved through the season.

Peter
01-08-2024, 01:03 PM
Plus ça change and a' that. Even the Graham years were squeezed in between two great eras for other clubs.

Yes, but this is different. A good manager can compete with a far wealthier opponent but not if that opponent also has a great coach. Hopefully Pep will get bored soon....

pjlincs
01-08-2024, 01:26 PM
Our league run last season sort of showed he was going somewhere.

However he seems to have gone backwards on that.
It’s fully his squad now and spend a load of money. Needs to start winning something. And sort out his subs. Saka was awful but never takes him off.

Klopp showed how to use subs and change things effectively.

7sisters
01-08-2024, 02:05 PM
Klopp showed how to use subs and change things effectively.

That’s a bit skewed. Not taking anything away from Klopp but he was afforded the luxury of realising that we were hopeless in their penalty area. Once he’d gained the lead, he loud *bring on the kids and sit back.
Arteta, while frantically chasing the game, opted to throw on ESR and Trossard at 87 minutes.
FFS :headwand:

Peter
01-08-2024, 03:31 PM
That’s a bit skewed. Not taking anything away from Klopp but he was afforded the luxury of realising that we were hopeless in their penalty area. Once he’d gained the lead, he loud *bring on the kids and sit back.
Arteta, while frantically chasing the game, opted to throw on ESR and Trossard at 87 minutes.
FFS :headwand:

He pushed them up the pitch in the second half and tried to win the ball back earlier. It worked. Hardly rocket science, I agree.

redgunamo
01-08-2024, 08:11 PM
Yes, that would be best for everyone :-\ https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/sep/24/pep-guardiola-admits-manchester-city-lack-prolific-striker



Yes, but this is different. A good manager can compete with a far wealthier opponent but not if that opponent also has a great coach. Hopefully Pep will get bored soon....

Peter
01-08-2024, 09:27 PM
Yes, that would be best for everyone :-\ https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/sep/24/pep-guardiola-admits-manchester-city-lack-prolific-striker

Lukaku :-D:-D

redgunamo
01-09-2024, 07:20 PM
Sound reasoning at least. He was on fire in Italy, just won the title.


Lukaku :-D:-D