Havertz...

[John Bunnell]

I'm actually getting the hump with the hate he's getting? I didn't really watch him much at Chelsea. I remember him being a phenomenal young talent at Bayer. What I have seen is someone who's very calm and controlled on the ball, who happens to be a giant, which is very useful.

I don't get the hate at all.

[PSRB]

I'm actually getting the hump with the hate he's getting? I didn't really watch him much at Chelsea. I remember him being a phenomenal young talent at Bayer. What I have seen is someone who's very calm and controlled on the ball, who happens to be a giant, which is very useful.

I don't get the hate at all.

Thought he did okay yesterday, was clearly shattered by 75 minutes

[7sisters]

I'm actually getting the hump with the hate he's getting? I didn't really watch him much at Chelsea. I remember him being a phenomenal young talent at Bayer. What I have seen is someone who's very calm and controlled on the ball, who happens to be a giant, which is very useful.

I don't get the hate at all.

It’s the fee. Fans fear another Pepe scenario. It does seem somewhat inflated. Arteta is clearly at pains to make it work given the outlay.
I assume this bizarre reshuffle with Partey as RB is an attempt to accommodate Havertz as a starter.
I’m not convinced it’s working but these things need time, I suppose.
If this is a sign of things to come then we really do need an actual RB.

[Pat Vegas]

I'm actually getting the hump with the hate he's getting? I didn't really watch him much at Chelsea. I remember him being a phenomenal young talent at Bayer. What I have seen is someone who's very calm and controlled on the ball, who happens to be a giant, which is very useful.

I don't get the hate at all.

I feel a bit like Arteta is shoehorning him in the starting 11,
I assume he was brought in for the Xhaka Role, But then I thought perhaps Declan Rice would do that too,

I wouldn't mind seeing Rice and Partey in midfield and maybe put Havertz up front for now. When Jesus is back I really don't know how they will all fit.

It will either work or Arteta will soon change it hopefully.

I think what he cost is the main issue.

[7sisters]

I feel a bit like Arteta is shoehorning him in the starting 11,
I assume he was brought in for the Xhaka Role, But then I thought perhaps Declan Rice would do that too,

I wouldn't mind seeing Rice and Partey in midfield and maybe put Havertz up front for now. When Jesus is back I really don't know how they will all fit.

It will either work or Arteta will soon change it hopefully.

I think what he cost is the main issue.

Adding to that, I don’t get the persistence with Eddie. He’s plainly never going to be the answer. If he were sold tomorrow, we’d be lucky to get 25-30m for him and yet we’re reportedly holding out for 45-50m for Balogun ? :shrug:

[redgunamo]

You can never have too many BFG's about the place.* Please do not tell my wife I said that :-\



*Obviously you CAN, of course, but you know what I mean.



I'm actually getting the hump with the hate he's getting? I didn't really watch him much at Chelsea. I remember him being a phenomenal young talent at Bayer. What I have seen is someone who's very calm and controlled on the ball, who happens to be a giant, which is very useful.

I don't get the hate at all.

[Peter]

I think the Partey at right back thing will cease when Zinchenko is fit.

[John Bunnell]

I think what he cost is the main issue.

IMO at these crazy market rates going around at, 65m is a drop in the ocean for a 24yo with bags of CL and top flight experience who is very versatile. It's not his fault he cost that either. Out of his hands, all he can do is perform on the pitch and he's doing his job imo.

[John Bunnell]

With Xhaka now gone I miss having a focal point player for my frustrations. Gabriel is the closest as he's a bit of a bozo sometimes but I generally like the majority of this squad.

[WES]

Adding to that, I don’t get the persistence with Eddie. He’s plainly never going to be the answer. If he were sold tomorrow, we’d be lucky to get 25-30m for him and yet we’re reportedly holding out for 45-50m for Balogun ? :shrug:

Eddie played well imo, 7s. He's our second choice no. 9 and in that context I think we're doing very well. No comment on the chip :furious:

[Peter]

I also thought he played well. I think people forget how bad Jesus is in front of goal....

[Luis Anaconda]

I think the Partey at right back thing will cease when Zinchenko is fit.

I think this is right - welcome back p

[Peter]

Thank you :-)

Not that easy to read Arteta but it certainly feels as though we are moving away from wanting specialist full backs. Seems he wants an inverted full back on one flank and a guy capable of shoving across to centre back on the other, making the three.

So that is Tierney ****ed. Partey is his preference for the inverted right back which means this current back four is our non Zinchenko offering. My guess is when Zinchenko is fit we revert to last season, with Gabriel back in and Saliba and White shoved across.

I dont believe any of these rumours about Gabriel leaving. That would be absurd.

[Arsenal Alcoholic Review]

He seems to be Arteta's Fellaini. Is that good or bad? You decide. I need to see him played in the Xhaka role with either Trossard or Jesus up front. I wouldn't really expect him to do much with Eddie played ahead of him. It's just not Eddie's game to hold the ball up or play defence splitting passes for on coming midfielders.

[7sisters]

He seems to be Arteta's Fellaini. Is that good or bad? You decide. I need to see him played in the Xhaka role with either Trossard or Jesus up front. I wouldn't really expect him to do much with Eddie played ahead of him. It's just not Eddie's game to hold the ball up or play defence splitting passes for on coming midfielders.

I’m not sure what Eddie’s game is tbh. I know what he’d like it to be, but I strongly suspect a Netto Andy Cole squad player is where he’ll end up.

[Arsenal Alcoholic Review]

I dont believe any of these rumours about Gabriel leaving. That would be absurd.

They're not going away though. There's clearly something to them. It would be mental. But Arteta does mental things every so often. Like taking key players from the squad and totally isolating them and tanking their value. See Torriea and Tierney. Tierney like Big Gab was just awarded a huge contract too before being put on gardening leave.

[Peter]

Similar rumours about Partey that dont seem to be going away. Again, for me, unthinkable but you never know.

[Arsenal Alcoholic Review]

Similar rumours about Partey that dont seem to be going away. Again, for me, unthinkable but you never know.

That makes more sense though for all parties. Has he actually bribed your women off yet and beat the case? Even though he is a bona fide elite player if that's still hanging over him he'd be looking to go to a league where they don't frown on that sort of thing like one of the new Arab leagues.

[WES]

That makes more sense though for all parties. Has he actually bribed your women off yet and beat the case? Even though he is a bona fide elite player if that's still hanging over him he'd be looking to go to a league where they don't frown on that sort of thing like one of the new Arab leagues.

Tell that to Mason Greenwood

[PSRB]

Tell that to Mason Greenwood

That's clearly where he's going to end up

[redgunamo]

He's off to Africa in January anyway. Things ought to quieten down a bit then.



Similar rumours about Partey that dont seem to be going away. Again, for me, unthinkable but you never know.

[WES]

That's clearly where he's going to end up

Not convinced, they'll be pretty media conscious, at least in the short term.

Turkey would be a better bet imo.

[Luis Anaconda]

He's off to Africa in January anyway. Things ought to quieten down a bit then.

No he's not - Ghana didn't qualify

[Pat Vegas]

No he's not - Ghana didn't qualify

If only they had Eddie playing for them.

[redgunamo]

:-\ loooooooool.



No he's not - Ghana didn't qualify

[redgunamo]

Please leave Eddie out of this. WE need him!



If only they had Eddie playing for them.

[redgunamo]

Please leave Eddie out of this. WE need him!



If only they had Eddie playing for them.

[Pat Vegas]

Please leave Eddie out of this. WE need him!

We double need him?

[Peter]

No he's not - Ghana didn't qualify

Excellent news :-)

[redgunamo]

:hehe: I'd say so, yes!



We double need him?