Jesus, Everton are in a shocking mess

[PSRB]

I strongly suspect a very volatile home support when we play them unless they sign Messi, Neymar and a top manager before we play them.

Go 1 up early and kill any support

[Tony C]

At this rate they should rehire Lampard :clap:

[Luis Anaconda]

I strongly suspect a very volatile home support when we play them unless they sign Messi, Neymar and a top manager before we play them.

Go 1 up early and kill any support

Shame there are no players we could take from them - maybe Onana

[PSRB]

Shame there are no players we could take from them - maybe Onana

Not at £50m, wait for them to get relegated. I really can't see how they're going to stay up.

[Tony C]

If we keep winning the final 8 games will be nothing more than a victory lap.

So iWobi on loan to play out the last few games while everyone else concentrates on the Europa League.

[Arsenal Alcoholic Review]

I don't know anything about this Onana fella but a quick search tells me he's a big black lad who plays midfield so i'm gonna get in early and call him the new Vieira. The figures quoted for what he's going to cost, huge numbers. Same with Declan Rice. Have our scouting department been made aware both of their clubs have been utter shiit this season with these two lads pulling the strings?

[Luis Anaconda]

Not at £50m, wait for them to get relegated. I really can't see how they're going to stay up.

Me neither - hopefully that means six points for us in the coming weeks which will be handy.

On another note, imagine being an Arsenal fan who wanted Moshiri and Usmanov to take over our club. You think they'd be a bit embarrassed by that really

[Luis Anaconda]

At this rate they should rehire Lampard :clap:

Actually they should go for Gerrard - would be funny

[redgunamo]

:-( There, but for the grace of God, goes Mikel.

What a life! Though the money seems good.



Actually they should go for Gerrard - would be funny

[redgunamo]

Juve must be planning a fire-sale just now (lol. Corrupt *******s). Anyone there interesting for us?



Not at £50m, wait for them to get relegated. I really can't see how they're going to stay up.

[PSRB]

Juve must be planning a fire-sale just now (lol. Corrupt *******s). Anyone there interesting for us?

Vlahovic....but frankly, he can **** off

[redgunamo]

Right. Actually, I used to fancy their Brazilian centre-half, until .. :-|



Vlahovic....but frankly, he can **** off

[7sisters]

Vlahovic....but frankly, he can **** off
He’s been fairly decent since signing. Hoping he doesn’t end up at United.


He’ll almost certainly end up there.

[Tony C]

I’m disappointed with the Weston McKennie link.

Hardly the American name…why can’t he be like my boy at Alabama….Ga'Quincy Kool Aid McKinstry :love:

You don’t have to ask…don’t have to Google or YouTubes him…you know with a name like that he’s world class.

Speaking of which….

https://youtube.com/shorts/JaWwy2_mCgY?feature=share

:lol:

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

I don't know anything about this Onana fella but a quick search tells me he's a big black lad who plays midfield so i'm gonna get in early and call him the new Vieira. The figures quoted for what he's going to cost, huge numbers. Same with Declan Rice. Have our scouting department been made aware both of their clubs have been utter shiit this season with these two lads pulling the strings?

A day or two ago, I saw we were linked with some young DM. 1m 91 which is roughly 6'3", no? As he's Belgian-Senegalese.

So we've signed a Vieira already - and now we could sign a played like the original Paddy.

I reckon buy him. That's what you want - a big DM from Senegal who can also create. Long term Partey replacement, imo.

[Arsenal Alcoholic Review]

I think there could be something in this Onana to Arsenal link. Supposedly he's turned down Chelsea today. The only reason I can see why he'd do that is because he wants to win the league with us. And tbf we must still have a chunk of money to throw about. The Polish lad although he could well be good looks like a luxury signing to me. We certainly weren't stuck for center halfs. Tomiyasu and Holding both need games and could clearly do a job in there at a high level. Likewise Tierney if we were really stuck and obviously White can play there too.

So I figure If we can spunk £20m on a squad filler CB we must be planning something big for cm where an injury to Partey could end our season. Especially now with Eleney possibly injured and Sambi failing to take his chance.

[PSRB]

Sean Dyche :hehe: It's that desperate at Everton!

[Luis Anaconda]

I think there could be something in this Onana to Arsenal link. Supposedly he's turned down Chelsea today. The only reason I can see why he'd do that is because he wants to win the league with us. And tbf we must still have a chunk of money to throw about. The Polish lad although he could well be good looks like a luxury signing to me. We certainly weren't stuck for center halfs. Tomiyasu and Holding both need games and could clearly do a job in there at a high level. Likewise Tierney if we were really stuck and obviously White can play there too.

So I figure If we can spunk £20m on a squad filler CB we must be planning something big for cm where an injury to Partey could end our season. Especially now with Eleney possibly injured and Sambi failing to take his chance.

Arteta has made it clear he wants to play with a left-footed centre back (as Pep does - all about the angles innit) so I don't think it is a luxury signing with three* competitions to play for and only Gabriel fitting the bill. Kiwior can also play midfield. And we can also push Benjamin in there whatever Red might say. Still expect us to sign a midfielder though and can't argue with that




*all right probably two after tonight

[Tony C]

I don’t trust City tonight.

If I was Pep I’d tell the lads to make sure Partey knows he’s being tackled.

Guy could get kicked apart tonight.

[PSRB]

I don’t trust City tonight.

If I was Pep I’d tell the lads to make sure Partey knows he’s being tackled.

Guy could get kicked apart tonight.

I hate to say it as I love the FA Cup but on this occasion, I hope we field a weakened team. ESR out, thigh but just precautionary

[Maravilloso Marvo]

Sean Dyche :hehe: It's that desperate at Everton!

I think that's a great appointment for them to be fair. He's got more chance of keeping them up than Bielsa imo.

Let's wait for the bounce to kick in next week...

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Arteta has made it clear he wants to play with a left-footed centre back (as Pep does - all about the angles innit) so I don't think it is a luxury signing with three* competitions to play for and only Gabriel fitting the bill. Kiwior can also play midfield. And we can also push Benjamin in there whatever Red might say. Still expect us to sign a midfielder though and can't argue with that




*all right probably two after tonight

KT has played on the left of a back 3, so have no idea why he couldn't cover Gabby. We basically play a back 3 anyway, with Zinny next to Partey in a W-M.

Given the Pole can also play LB and DM, I think he could be the long term cover for Zinny. MA's keeps talking about his versatility. Having a young intl who only takes one squad place to cover LCH and LB makes sense. Given the versatility of Tommy and White, that's 6 players covering all the back 4, if KT were to leave to be a regular starter at a top club.

MA doesn't want a winger like KT at LB. He wants a ticked in MF.

[Luis Anaconda]

KT has played on the left of a back 3, so have no idea why he couldn't cover Gabby. We basically play a back 3 anyway, with Zinny next to Partey in a W-M.

Given the Pole can also play LB and DM, I think he could be the long term cover for Zinny. MA's keeps talking about his versatility. Having a young intl who only takes one squad place to cover LCH and LB makes sense. Given the versatility of Tommy and White, that's 6 players covering all the back 4, if KT were to leave to be a regular starter at a top club.

MA doesn't want a winger like KT at LB. He wants a ticked in MF.
No - that's a massively simplistic/innacurate take on our system. Tierney could play one of three at the back as Nacho did in the latter Wenger days but would be out of place in this system. We actually play with a fairly orthodox centre back partnership and you need the physicality of someone like Gabriel (also imagine the effect of swapping a 6ft 3in defender for 5ft 10in one would do to our set pieces at both end, which are an underrated strength this year)

Also stop with the whole WM nonsense - its *******s

[Arsenal Alcoholic Review]

I'm not over the moon with Sean Dyche getting the job just before we play them. He's well able to keep the scoring down against a good team. And as hopeless as Everton are they did somehow manage a point away to City not long ago.

[Luis Anaconda]

I'm not over the moon with Sean Dyche getting the job just before we play them. He's well able to keep the scoring down against a good team. And as hopeless as Everton are they did somehow manage a point away to City not long ago.

They actually have some decent defenders there. Might be vital to start fast in this one

[Tony C]

I’m a little disappointed with Dyche.

He’s too good for them.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

No - that's a massively simplistic/innacurate take on our system. Tierney could play one of three at the back as Nacho did in the latter Wenger days but would be out of place in this system. We actually play with a fairly orthodox centre back partnership and you need the physicality of someone like Gabriel (also imagine the effect of swapping a 6ft 3in defender for 5ft 10in one would do to our set pieces at both end, which are an underrated strength this year)

Also stop with the whole WM nonsense - its *******s

Look - I agree about the height. I hadn't thought of that. {And when we had Gilby and Paddy in MF, that have us 2 CHs and 2 MFswho were all big which was great for corners at both ends.}

But we are playing a W-M when in possession. The three at the back {ignoring Zinny} shuffle across into a back 3. {That's why before Benjamin moved to RB, we had Tommy, another RB who could play CH. It's why he didn't want Hector.}

Zinny moves next to Partey as they both play as DMs {though both can get forward - that's why TP has banged in a couple from the right of the D, while Zinny will work with GX on the left.} Look at their average positions on the maps the stats geeks show.

And we have a classic front three with both wingers starting wide. When we had KT, in attack he'd basically be LW, with Gabby M moving inside to the inside left role and GX dropping back to cover LB if needed. That's the main reason he prefers Zinny - so Gabby can stay wide like Saka and GX doesn't cover LB.

Both GX and Ødin are old skool inside forwards, behind the front 3 but between the CF and the wingers. To me it looks like a WM. And were ESR to play where GX does, we'd have 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 exactly where Herbie would have wanted them.

Last week, when they counter-attacked down our left, Gabby 1 {defender} was on the left corner of or box dealing with it as Zinny ran back to join him but inside him. Whereas a normal LB would have been outside.

There was a thing by that Stilberto chap on Arseblog this week about Zinny. And while it didn't mention WM, it showed where Zinny played and where the players average positions were. And it looked pretty WM to me.

Which of the ten outfield positions do you think aren't WM when we're in possession? We don't play 4-3-3 with a classic no.10 like Cesc, Ozil or ESR before we got Ødin.

We play what they might call a 4-1-2-3. But given Zinny "inverts" next to Partey-started, then in possession, it's a 3-2-2-3. Which is basically a WM.

Jakub Kiwior is 6'2" and MA keeps banging on about his versatility. He's played LB and DM as well. Do you reckon he could be cover for Zinny? A tall left-footer who's comfortable as a DM and has a good passing range.