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Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
08-02-2022, 12:12 PM
1 in front of both fees. That's not unreasonable, is it? Martinez went for 20m, sameish age, after half a season. Leno's a proven German intl.

And how did we have a deal for the wops to buy LT for 15m and then they just say no?

I get the squad's being rebuilt, and this is looking like a 2nd decent summer window in a row for the first time in ages.

But I think these dastardly foreigners are taking the mick. Do they not have Cheese & Onion Discos over there?

Luis Anaconda
08-02-2022, 01:31 PM
1 in front of both fees. That's not unreasonable, is it? Martinez went for 20m, sameish age, after half a season. Leno's a proven German intl.

And how did we have a deal for the wops to buy LT for 15m and then they just say no?

I get the squad's being rebuilt, and this is looking like a 2nd decent summer window in a row for the first time in ages.

But I think these dastardly foreigners are taking the mick. Do they not have Cheese & Onion Discos over there?

I imagine the club just don't care about the money and would rather just give these players away.

Or perhaps, if clubs aren't prepared to bid higher we have to take what is offered or the player just rots in reserve

Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
08-02-2022, 03:51 PM
I imagine the club just don't care about the money and would rather just give these players away.

Or perhaps, if clubs aren't prepared to bid higher we have to take what is offered or the player just rots in reserve

That's the point.

But even ignoring inflation, if we could have bought a Leno for £8m when we were cursed with Almunia, I'd have bitten your hand off. Ditto LT for 6m when we were looking for a Coq upgrade.

Would be nice to get most of the clear out done. I still want another MF - that's where we're weak, and have been ever since we decided to ditch Gwedndo, Ozzy and LT and only buy Partey.

Tony C
08-03-2022, 04:24 AM
Leno deal…

£3m up front
£1m for number of PL appearances
£2m if the stay up
£2m if the stay up a 2nd time

So at this stage it’s only £3m for a top class premier league proven goalkeeper.

Lol

Pat Vegas
08-03-2022, 08:19 AM
Leno deal…

£3m up front
£1m for number of PL appearances
£2m if the stay up
£2m if the stay up a 2nd time

So at this stage it’s only £3m for a top class premier league proven goalkeeper.

Lol

Pat Vegas Maths says if he plays every game for Fulham we will get £38m for him.
Genius Don Edu :bow:

WES
08-03-2022, 08:24 AM
Leno deal…

£3m up front
£1m for number of PL appearances
£2m if the stay up
£2m if the stay up a 2nd time

So at this stage it’s only £3m for a top class premier league proven goalkeeper.

Lol

The market is what the market is, Tone. I'm pretty sure if someone had offered more we would have accepted it :shrug:

Luis Anaconda
08-03-2022, 08:51 AM
The market is what the market is, Tone. I'm pretty sure if someone had offered more we would have accepted it :shrug:

Every Big Six club bar possibly Man City is struggling to trim the fat of their squads. Possibility that Chelsea - often cited as being good at selling players - will have the following players out on loan this year:

Kepa (bought for 72 million)
Lukaka (98 million)
Werner (48 million)

218 million!

Definitely not a sellers' market for the big clubs

Pat Vegas
08-03-2022, 08:56 AM
Every Big Six club bar possibly Man City is struggling to trim the fat of their squads. Possibility that Chelsea - often cited as being good at selling players - will have the following players out on loan this year:

Kepa (bought for 72 million)
Lukaka (98 million)
Werner (48 million)

218 million!

Definitely not a sellers' market for the big clubs

What did you think of the Aubameyang deal LA? I thought it odd at the time but perhaps it was correct.

If there is one player we should have got more money for it was TH14.

Luis Anaconda
08-03-2022, 08:56 AM
That's the point.

But even ignoring inflation, if we could have bought a Leno for £8m when we were cursed with Almunia, I'd have bitten your hand off. Ditto LT for 6m when we were looking for a Coq upgrade.

Would be nice to get most of the clear out done. I still want another MF - that's where we're weak, and have been ever since we decided to ditch Gwedndo, Ozzy and LT and only buy Partey.

I think Tielemans will come - not too sure if he is the right player but Mikel seems to want him

Luis Anaconda
08-03-2022, 08:58 AM
What did you think of the Aubameyang deal LA? I thought it odd at the time but perhaps it was correct.

If there is one player we should have got more money for it was TH14.

Yeah - Edu said as much about Aubameyang, just a case of shifting him on. Thing is it hasn't seemed to be impinge on our ability to buy this summer so we can't really argue.

We should never have sold Titi, p :cry:

Pat Vegas
08-03-2022, 09:01 AM
I think Tielemans will come - not too sure if he is the right player but Mikel seems to want him

I think it's already in the bag. Nobody else seems to be going in for him. 'accoring to reports'

Pat Vegas
08-03-2022, 09:08 AM
Yeah - Edu said as much about Aubameyang, just a case of shifting him on. Thing is it hasn't seemed to be impinge on our ability to buy this summer so we can't really argue.

We should never have sold Titi, p :cry:

I know he played at the Emirates but the move to the new stadium seemed to be an end of that team, shame we couldn't have had a couple of years with them in it.

That CL final was the end of them :-(

Luis Anaconda
08-03-2022, 09:08 AM
I think it's already in the bag. Nobody else seems to be going in for him. 'accoring to reports'

It's been an odd one - seemed to have personal terms sorted ages ago but haven't made a bid. Not too sure about signing Belgians though. Strange sorts

Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
08-03-2022, 11:17 AM
What did you think of the Aubameyang deal LA? I thought it odd at the time but perhaps it was correct.

If there is one player we should have got more money for it was TH14.

The joke was the years before we sold both Paddy and Titi for about 16m, we turned down 30m bids for them.

Luis Anaconda
08-03-2022, 11:41 AM
The joke was the years before we sold both Paddy and Titi for about 16m, we turned down 30m bids for them.

But we got the best from both players. I genuinely don't give a **** how much we sell players for. It's what they've done for Arsenal that counts. Didn't get a penny for Dennis or Tony Adams either

WES
08-03-2022, 12:40 PM
The joke was the years before we sold both Paddy and Titi for about 16m, we turned down 30m bids for them.

And had we accepted those bids the Invincible season and the 2005 FA Cup might never have happened :shrug:

If we sold players for their maximum value we'd be selling them in their prime, which doesn't really reconcile with winning trophies.

Paddy we sold at the exactly right time, Henry could still have helped us but I get the feeling he didn't want any more part of the youth project so we didn't have much choice.

Plus, he came back and scored *that* goal #iwasthereandpissedasarat

Luis Anaconda
08-03-2022, 01:53 PM
And had we accepted those bids the Invincible season and the 2005 FA Cup might never have happened :shrug:

If we sold players for their maximum value we'd be selling them in their prime, which doesn't really reconcile with winning trophies.

Paddy we sold at the exactly right time, Henry could still have helped us but I get the feeling he didn't want any more part of the youth project so we didn't have much choice.

Plus, he came back and scored *that* goal #iwasthereandpissedasarat

Likewise :) If van Persie had remained fit we actually had a replacement for Titi ... Vieira was simply irreplaceable

Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
08-03-2022, 05:36 PM
And had we accepted those bids the Invincible season and the 2005 FA Cup might never have happened :shrug:

If we sold players for their maximum value we'd be selling them in their prime, which doesn't really reconcile with winning trophies.

Paddy we sold at the exactly right time, Henry could still have helped us but I get the feeling he didn't want any more part of the youth project so we didn't have much choice.

Plus, he came back and scored *that* goal #iwasthereandpissedasarat

Paddy's bid was after the Invincibles, so it would have only cost us the 2005 FA Cup. And Titi's bid was after we lost the CL final. We had Cesc, Ade, RVP and Reyes. And got TR7 in '06. That extra £30m could have bought us a CM to play with Gilby and Cesc in a 3 man MF, and a better CH than Gallas.

Yes, I'd have rather we kept both of them forever. But we turned down 10m for Mhikki and then sold him for 1m a year later. I have no idea why AW forced PV4 out. Thought that was silly. We didn't switch to 4-3-3 until a few years later, but imagine if we'd had Gilby, PV and Cesc as a 3 man MF, Titi, Bobby P/Reyes and Freddie up front, with TR7 able to cover the MF or wings.

Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
08-03-2022, 05:43 PM
But we got the best from both players. I genuinely don't give a **** how much we sell players for. It's what they've done for Arsenal that counts. Didn't get a penny for Dennis or Tony Adams either

In his autobiog, PV4 says he didn't understand why he was forced out. The year before, when RM had offered 30m, he says AW fought to keep him. But the next year, he's told AFC had received an offer and they didn't care whether he stayed or not. So he stropped out and then couldn't work out why he'd left the club.

As above, imagine if we'd switched to the 4-3-3 earlier, with Gilby, PV and Cesc in MF, with Titi {with RVP as backup} as the lone striker. Bobby and Reyes for the left wing, Freddie and TR7 for the right, with TR7 also able to cover 2 of the MF roles.

Dear Ganpati, imagine if we could get a squad with 9 options like those for the front 6. Reyes, RVP and TR7 as the 2nd choice front 3.

If only we could find a new PV4 who could play both as a 4 and an 8.

What's this new lad, Vieira 2.0 like?

Arsenal Alcoholic Review
08-04-2022, 06:05 AM
We should make a cheeky bid for Ronaldo. We bid, Man Utd pay us a cool £7m and we offer him 50k a week.