Would anyone care to enlighten me as to why the manager of the Arsenal

[Burney]

is standing on the touch line dressed like a stay-at-home dad dropping his kids off at the school gates?

Fùckssake!

[AFC East]

is standing on the touch line dressed like a stay-at-home dad dropping his kids off at the school gates?

Fùckssake!

Because some values are important and others are not. He chooses this way to dress to get the best from his team.

[Burney]

Because some values are important and others are not. He chooses this way to dress to get the best from his team.

With respect, bóllocks.

How does dressing like you've run through a JD Sports naked and covered in glue help get the best from your team exactly? By showing disrespect to the Club and the office to which you've been appointed?

I was wholly prepared to be positive about Arteta, but until he mends his sartorial ways, I will be forced to reserve judgement, I'm afraid. :shakehead:

[Pokster]

With respect, bóllocks.

How does dressing like you've run through a JD Sports naked and covered in glue help get the best from your team exactly? By showing disrespect to the Club and the office to which you've been appointed?

I was wholly prepared to be positive about Arteta, but until he mends his sartorial ways, I will be forced to reserve judgement, I'm afraid. :shakehead:

Perhaps he should wear a zip up duvet????

[AFC East]

With respect, bóllocks.

How does dressing like you've run through a JD Sports naked and covered in glue help get the best from your team exactly? By showing disrespect to the Club and the office to which you've been appointed?

I was wholly prepared to be positive about Arteta, but until he mends his sartorial ways, I will be forced to reserve judgement, I'm afraid. :shakehead:

With respect, *******s; he doesn’t look like he went anywhere near JD sports.You may purchase your leisurewear there, Arteta does not.

Wearing a suit would make him look like an old fashioned authority figure. No good manager does that anymore. It’ was okay under a pensioner, not so acceptable under a 36ish year old.

I expect he will wear a suit on occasion and pull it off with aplomb. We’ve seen what being a 1970s authoritarian did for Emery.

[Burney]

Perhaps he should wear a zip up duvet????

There were few greater critics of AW's dress sense than I - his silly (albeit practical) coats and inability to tie a proper knot in his tie infuriated me for years. However, he'd never have turned up looking like that.

[Burney]

With respect, *******s; he doesn’t look like he went anywhere near JD sports.You may purchase your leisurewear there, Arteta does not.

Wearing a suit would make him look like an old fashioned authority figure. No good manager does that anymore. It’ was okay under a pensioner, not so acceptable under a 36ish year old.

I expect he will wear a suit on occasion and pull it off with aplomb. We’ve seen what being a 1970s authoritarian did for Emery.

I do not purchase 'leisurewear', thank you. I leave that sort of thing to the lower orders. And the fact that it may be possible to pay more for such absurd garments in no way validates the decision to do so.

Plimsolls! He turned up to manage the Arsenal wearing plimsolls, ffs! I don't want to have to denounce him and one must make allowances for the fact that he's a foreigner and therefore has no idea how to behave, but I must admit he's testing my patience severely.

[WES]

There were few greater critics of AW's dress sense than I - his silly (albeit practical) coats and inability to tie a proper knot in his tie infuriated me for years. However, he'd never have turned up looking like that.

Whilst I appreciate that you are taking the p1ss - I will point out a factual inaccuracy.

Wenger - on occasion - wore a track suit and trainers to a match. A quick google will show this is true.

HNY BTW - not sure about you but I'm hoping for Ian Lavery to replace Corbyn. Carnage is an insufficient word to describe what might happen internally in Labour should that occur. :-)

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

is standing on the touch line dressed like a stay-at-home dad dropping his kids off at the school gates?

Fùckssake!



He did it intentionally to give you something to moan about :-)

[IUFG]

I do not purchase 'leisurewear', thank you. I leave that sort of thing to the lower orders. And the fact that it may be possible to pay more for such absurd garments in no way validates the decision to do so.

Plimsolls! He turned up to manage the Arsenal wearing plimsolls, ffs! I don't want to have to denounce him and one must make allowances for the fact that he's a foreigner and therefore has no idea how to behave, but I must admit he's testing my patience severely.

Look at Klopp - perhaps the best manager in the league - all tracksuit bottoms and trainers. And a fúcking cap, for the love of Dennis.

Pep - chinos, jumpers, trainers.

in short, they're all at it nowadays, b. Perhaps it is time to admit we are the anachronistic ones...

[Burney]

Whilst I appreciate that you are taking the p1ss - I will point out a factual inaccuracy.

Wenger - on occasion - wore a track suit and trainers to a match. A quick google will show this is true.

HNY BTW - not sure about you but I'm hoping for Ian Lavery to replace Corbyn. Carnage is an insufficient word to describe what might happen internally in Labour should that occur. :-)

A tracksuit - whilst deeply regrettable - can at least be considered workwear in a sporting context. Whatever the fúck that ensemble Arteta shambled in wearing can not be justified on any level.

HNY. Looks like the polling at the moment is favouring Starmer, but it'll be interesting to see how that breaks down as people drop out. On the surface, he would be the semi-sensible choice, but he's still a hardcore remainer who is unlikely to win back any leave-voting constituencies anytime soon.

But then continuity Corbynism would be equally disastrous for different reasons. The joy of this leadership context is that whoever they choose, they're fúcked. :hehe:

[Burney]

Look at Klopp - perhaps the best manager in the league - all tracksuit bottoms and trainers. And a fúcking cap, for the love of Dennis.

Pep - chinos, jumpers, trainers.

in short, they're all at it nowadays, b. Perhaps it is time to admit we are the anachronistic ones...

Neither of those persons manages the Arsenal.

Or are you accepting that we're just another football club now?

[IUFG]

Neither of those persons manages the Arsenal.

Or are you accepting that we're just another football club now?

:nod: the moment KSE bought up the shares, we became just that

[Pokster]

There were few greater critics of AW's dress sense than I - his silly (albeit practical) coats and inability to tie a proper knot in his tie infuriated me for years. However, he'd never have turned up looking like that.

Arteta is 37 , AW was 110

[Burney]

Arteta is 37 , AW was 110

37 is middle-aged. Far too old to dress like some sort of delinquent teenager.

[Pokster]

37 is middle-aged. Far too old to dress like some sort of delinquent teenager.

Unlike you to be a moany old bitter ****oid.....

[WES]

A tracksuit - whilst deeply regrettable - can at least be considered workwear in a sporting context. Whatever the fúck that ensemble Arteta shambled in wearing can not be justified on any level.

HNY. Looks like the polling at the moment is favouring Starmer, but it'll be interesting to see how that breaks down as people drop out. On the surface, he would be the semi-sensible choice, but he's still a hardcore remainer who is unlikely to win back any leave-voting constituencies anytime soon.

But then continuity Corbynism would be equally disastrous for different reasons. The joy of this leadership context is that whoever they choose, they're fúcked. :hehe:

The pleasure I took in the election result will pale in comparison to the pleasure I expect to take in watching the massive fight within Labour over the next leader and the associated policies they will support. There is so much denial in place from the Corbyn supporters and so much anger from the centrists that I can only see an implosion coming.

If the unions win they are unelectable, if the centrists win the party might split in two. Great fun. :clap:

[Burney]

:nod: the moment KSE bought up the shares, we became just that

:nod: O Tempora! O Mores! :cry:

[Pokster]

The pleasure I took in the election result will pale in comparison to the pleasure I expect to take in watching the massive fight within Labour over the next leader and the associated policies they will support. There is so much denial in place from the Corbyn supporters and so much anger from the centrists that I can only see an implosion coming.

If the unions win they are unelectable, if the centrists win the party might split in two. Great fun. :clap:

So a strong opposition isn't a good thing? That goes against all rational thinking.

Boris with no opposition could be the worse thing that could happen

[IUFG]

:nod: O Tempora! O Mores! :cry:

exactly. I see ethical veganism is posssibly to be come 'belief' under the Equality Act and therefore a protected characteristic.

the lunatics are taking over, b, I tells yer.

[AFC East]

There were few greater critics of AW's dress sense than I - his silly (albeit practical) coats and inability to tie a proper knot in his tie infuriated me for years. However, he'd never have turned up looking like that.

A coat you can't zip up is hardly practical!

[AFC East]

Whilst I appreciate that you are taking the p1ss - I will point out a factual inaccuracy.

Wenger - on occasion - wore a track suit and trainers to a match. A quick google will show this is true.

HNY BTW - not sure about you but I'm hoping for Ian Lavery to replace Corbyn. Carnage is an insufficient word to describe what might happen internally in Labour should that occur. :-)

Indeed, Wenger could be a right scruff!

Do we not want an effective, centrist opposition? At least then Boris might give us some tax cuts.

[Burney]

The pleasure I took in the election result will pale in comparison to the pleasure I expect to take in watching the massive fight within Labour over the next leader and the associated policies they will support. There is so much denial in place from the Corbyn supporters and so much anger from the centrists that I can only see an implosion coming.

If the unions win they are unelectable, if the centrists win the party might split in two. Great fun. :clap:

The demographic facts are that with Scotland gone (apparently for good), there is zero prospect of Labour forming a majority government again in our lifetimes. Therefore, the only sane thing for them to do is move to the centre and try to form some sort of 'progressive alliance' with the LibDems, SNP and so forth. However, this will happen over the dead bodies of many of the hard left who now control the party.

You also have to factor in that whoever is elected leader is seriously unlikely ever to become PM and at best may have to settle for a Kinnock-style rebuilding role. Bit of a tricky one for an ambitious politician to swallow, that.

[Burney]

So a strong opposition isn't a good thing? That goes against all rational thinking.

Boris with no opposition could be the worse thing that could happen

Boris has an 80-seat majority. In practical terms, he already has no opposition.

[WES]

The demographic facts are that with Scotland gone (apparently for good), there is zero prospect of Labour forming a majority government again in our lifetimes. Therefore, the only sane thing for them to do is move to the centre and try to form some sort of 'progressive alliance' with the LibDems, SNP and so forth. However, this will happen over the dead bodies of many of the hard left who now control the party.

You also have to factor in that whoever is elected leader is seriously unlikely ever to become PM and at best may have to settle for a Kinnock-style rebuilding role. Bit of a tricky one for an ambitious politician to swallow, that.

The beauty of it is that Brexit gave the Corbyn lovers an out on why they lost the election and they have jumped all over it no matter how strong the evidence to the contrary is. It's pretty unique, I think, that a party could lose that badly and not consider a complete rethink of their policies and strategy.

It feels like they need another election hammering before the move back to the centre happens. That means at least 10 years more of Conservative rule by which point I shall be retired. :cloud9:

[Burney]

The beauty of it is that Brexit gave the Corbyn lovers an out on why they lost the election and they have jumped all over it no matter how strong the evidence to the contrary is. It's pretty unique, I think, that a party could lose that badly and not consider a complete rethink of their policies and strategy.

It feels like they need another election hammering before the move back to the centre happens. That means at least 10 years more of Conservative rule by which point I shall be retired. :cloud9:

Thing is, I think they're well aware how toxic Corbyn and Corbynism are, but they are genuinely more concerned with being in control of the Party than of the country. They will fight tooth and nail not to relinquish it.

[John Bunnell]

Arteta would pipe all of your wives & girlfriends even if he did run through Sports Direct covered in superglue.

Not my girls tho as I'm a different breed all together.

[Pokster]

Boris has an 80-seat majority. In practical terms, he already has no opposition.

he at least needs someone to question him when he fails to deliver on the promises.

[Sir C]

he at least needs someone to question him when he fails to deliver on the promises.

Meh. Politicians have to promise the undeliverable; it's a flaw in the democratic model that if they told you the truth you wouldn't vote for them.

Questioning them about it is a farce.

[Burney]

he at least needs someone to question him when he fails to deliver on the promises.

I'm sure the BBC will ask him some questions, p.

And then he'll decriminalise non-payment of the licence fee and destroy them. :hehe:

[Burney]

Meh. Politicians have to promise the undeliverable; it's a flaw in the democratic model that if they told you the truth you wouldn't vote for them.

Questioning them about it is a farce.

I would so dearly love to see him fúck the Beeb, but if he lets Cummings loose on a (metaphorical) killing spree in Whitehall I'll settle for that.