So given there's almost certainly going to be further horse trading between

[Monty92]

the Brexit Party and the Tories to allow Farage a clear run at a handful of winnable Labour Leave seats and and the Tories a massive chunk of winnable marginals, it's looking pretty f*cking good for Boris right now.

I'm certainly not counting my chickens yet, but.....but.....

Poor Jorge :-(

[IUFG]

the Brexit Party and the Tories to allow Farage a clear run at a handful of winnable Labour Leave seats and and the Tories a massive chunk of winnable marginals, it's looking pretty f*cking good for Boris right now.

I'm certainly not counting my chickens yet, but.....but.....

Poor Jorge :-(

is he still Tory bashing on Twitter?

[Burney]

the Brexit Party and the Tories to allow Farage a clear run at a handful of winnable Labour Leave seats and and the Tories a massive chunk of winnable marginals, it's looking pretty f*cking good for Boris right now.

I'm certainly not counting my chickens yet, but.....but.....

Poor Jorge :-(

That's my tentative take, too. And, judging by the number of remainers running around shítting themselves at the moment, they were banking on BP as their last hope.
Seriously, you've now got remain die-hards who are also trenchant critics of Corbyn's anti-semitism like Nick Cohen and David Aaronovitch advocating Lib/Lab pacts that would put Corbyn in Number 10. They're that panicked.

You love to see it.

[Burney]

is he still Tory bashing on Twitter?

Just had a look. He's calling everyone Russian agents, which is the last step before smearing yourself in your own excrement and wearing a tinfoil hat. :hehe:

[Monty92]

That's my tentative take, too. And, judging by the number of remainers running around shítting themselves at the moment, they were banking on BP as their last hope.
Seriously, you've now got remain die-hards who are also trenchant critics of Corbyn's anti-semitism like Nick Cohen and David Aaronovitch advocating Lib/Lab pacts that would put Corbyn in Number 10. They're that panicked.

You love to see it.

I don't really see that Labour have any cards to play to counter it, either. I might be wrong, but it feels like they've dug themselves in too deep to enter a meaningful remain alliance. They'll basically be left hoping for a catastrophic Tory scandal, which is, of course, eminently possible...

If the polls start creeping up for the Tories over the coming days, it will be tempting to think they're home and dry :-O

This could - COULD - be beautiful.

[Monty92]

Just had a look. He's calling everyone Russian agents, which is the last step before smearing yourself in your own excrement and wearing a tinfoil hat. :hehe:

He was ripping Boris for the upside down wreath the other day.

If I were agitating to put Jeremy Corbyn into Number 10, I'd be avoiding all mention of wreaths...

[Pokster]

the Brexit Party and the Tories to allow Farage a clear run at a handful of winnable Labour Leave seats and and the Tories a massive chunk of winnable marginals, it's looking pretty f*cking good for Boris right now.

I'm certainly not counting my chickens yet, but.....but.....

Poor Jorge :-(

Boris in charge, what could possibly go wrong

[Monty92]

Boris in charge, what could possibly go wrong

Yeah, what an electoral liability the two-time London mayor :rolleyes:

[IUFG]

Just had a look. He's calling everyone Russian agents, which is the last step before smearing yourself in your own excrement and wearing a tinfoil hat. :hehe:

I thought it was all about the Tories selling out the UK to the good ol' USofA

Could the lefties please make their fúcking minds up?

[Burney]

I don't really see that Labour have any cards to play to counter it, either. I might be wrong, but it feels like they've dug themselves in too deep to enter a meaningful remain alliance. They'll basically be left hoping for a catastrophic Tory scandal, which is, of course, eminently possible...

If the polls start showing the Tories creeping up over the coming days, it will be tempting to think they're home and dry :-O

This could - COULD - be beautiful.

More importantly, the LibDems won't do it. They agreed to this election because they saw an opportunity to gain seats from both Labour and the Tories by having an election pre-Brexit (stopping which is the only one of their policies their voters actually care about). They're not going to risk the prospect of getting back to 2010 numbers of MPs by getting into bed with Corbyn.

I am too terrified of the alternative to risk confidence, but if I were truly objective and had to make a bet, it'd only be one way.

[Burney]

Yeah, what an electoral liability the two-time London mayor :rolleyes:

...and leader of the notoriously unsuccessful 2016 Leave campaing. :hehe:

As I've pointed out for years, whatever you think about him, the one thing you have to admit about Boris is that he wins elections.

[Monty92]

More importantly, the LibDems won't do it. They agreed to this election because they saw an opportunity to gain seats from both Labour and the Tories by having an election pre-Brexit (stopping which is the only one of their policies their voters actually care about). They're not going to risk the prospect of getting back to 2010 numbers of MPs by getting into bed with Corbyn.

I am too terrified of the alternative to risk confidence, but if I were truly objective and had to make a bet, it'd only be one way.

I think this is where the defection of yer Bergers and yer Umunnas to the Lib Dems has helped too. Given their stance on Corbyn, I'm fairly sure they would only have countenanced joining the LDs with an explicit assurance that the LDs wouldn't endorse Corbyn either in a Government of National Unity or as any kind of coalition partner.

Of course what this also means is that despite their entire shtick being about stopping Brexit, their anti-Corbyn policy is very likely going to enable Brexit by splitting the remain vote.

And millions wanting to stop Brexit will still vote for them. Thick c*nts.

[PSRB]

...and leader of the notoriously unsuccessful 2016 Leave campaing. :hehe:

As I've pointed out for years, whatever you think about him, the one thing you have to admit about Boris is that he wins elections.


Fingers crossed for heavy rain on election day

[Burney]

I think this is where the defection of yer Bergers and yer Umunnas to the Lib Dems has helped too. Given their stance on Corbyn, I'm fairly sure they would only have countenanced joining the LDs with an explicit assurance that the LDs wouldn't endorse Corbyn either in a Government of National Unity or as any kind of coalition partner.

Of course what this also means is that despite their entire shtick being about stopping Brexit, their anti-Corbyn policy is very likely going to enable Brexit by splitting the remain vote.

And millions wanting to stop Brexit will still vote for them. Thick c*nts.

I do find it funny the way nobody has called out just how cynical the LDs and SNP were in agreeing to this election (and thus effectively hanging Labour out to dry). After all, their best chance of stopping Brexit was keeping an impotent government in power and playing the waiting game.
Instead, for their respective, entirely party-political reasons (LDs seeing an advantage and SNP wanting to have an election before everyone finds out just how much Wee Jimmy Krankie knew about Salmond's nasty sexcapades), they basically abandoned their precious goal of remaining. Really outrageous cynicism, but nobody says anything, preferring to talk about Boris putting party before country. Amazing stuff.

[Monty92]

I do find it funny the way nobody has called out just how cynical the LDs and SNP were in agreeing to this election (and thus effectively hanging Labour out to dry). After all, their best chance of stopping Brexit was keeping an impotent government in power and playing the waiting game.
Instead, for their respective, entirely party-political reasons (LDs seeing an advantage and SNP wanting to have an election before everyone finds out just how much Wee Jimmy Krankie knew about Salmond's nasty sexcapades), they basically abandoned their precious goal of remaining. Really outrageous cynicism, but nobody says anything, preferring to talk about Boris putting party before country. Amazing stuff.

That was my point, really. It's palpably obvious from their actions that the Lib Dems would take Brexit happening if it meant winning a bunch more seats. In fact they are in a sense relying on it, because to win a bunch more seats they need Labour to lose votes to the Tories and Brexit Party.

That should, in a sane world, make them utterly contemptible in the eyes of the electorate. But not a word is said.

[Ash]

I do find it funny the way nobody has called out just how cynical the LDs and SNP were in agreeing to this election (and thus effectively hanging Labour out to dry). After all, their best chance of stopping Brexit was keeping an impotent government in power and playing the waiting game.
Instead, for their respective, entirely party-political reasons (LDs seeing an advantage and SNP wanting to have an election before everyone finds out just how much Wee Jimmy Krankie knew about Salmond's nasty sexcapades), they basically abandoned their precious goal of remaining. Really outrageous cynicism, but nobody says anything, preferring to talk about Boris putting party before country. Amazing stuff.

SNP see the chance to win every seat in Scotland thus paving their way to secede. Of course there's nothing odd about UK leaving the EU being the most appalling thing ever but Scotland leaving the UK being the best thing ever. And good luck with independent, Scottish socialism in the EU. :thumbup:

Are the allegations against Salmond proven btw, or just another tedious political smear?

[Burney]

SNP see the chance to win every seat in Scotland thus paving their way to secede. Of course there's nothing odd about UK leaving the EU being the most appalling thing ever but Scotland leaving the UK being the best thing ever. And good luck with independent, Scottish socialism in the EU. :thumbup:

Are the allegations against Salmond proven btw, or just another tedious political smear?

I wouldn't bet on them sweeping the board. There's effectively only one way Unionists can vote in Scotland now, after all...

Well he's been charged with attempted rape and sexual assault, so they've convinced the Procurator Fiscal to take it to court...

[Ash]

the Brexit Party and the Tories to allow Farage a clear run at a handful of winnable Labour Leave seats and and the Tories a massive chunk of winnable marginals, it's looking pretty f*cking good for Boris right now.


I'd have been more impressed with the BP if they'd said they would not contest leave-voting seats with Labour leave MPs. Remain MPs of any party in leave-voting seats should be the BP targets imo.

[IUFG]

SNP see the chance to win every seat in Scotland thus paving their way to secede. Of course there's nothing odd about UK leaving the EU being the most appalling thing ever but Scotland leaving the UK being the best thing ever. And good luck with independent, Scottish socialism in the EU. :thumbup:

Are the allegations against Salmond proven btw, or just another tedious political smear?

hmmmmmm.
The Jocks don't want to be part of 'The Union' but do want to be part of The European Union...
is that because they think they might get ****** FREE MONEY ****** (Not like they don't get it now...), I wonder.

Or is it that WJK is a power hungry goblin? :rubchin:


Most people I speak to would happily fúck Scotland out of the UK window.

[Burney]

That was my point, really. It's palpably obvious from their actions that the Lib Dems would take Brexit happening if it meant winning a bunch more seats. In fact they are in a sense relying on it, because to win a bunch more seats they need Labour to lose votes to the Tories and Brexit Party.

That should, in a sane world, make them utterly contemptible in the eyes of the electorate. But not a word is said.

:nod: If I were someone tasked with damage limitation for the Labour Party, I'd be going ball(s) out with the attack line against the Lib Dems that they've betrayed remainers by voting for a Brexit election. But as usual, they're too blinded by hatred for the tories to think of that. By the time they do decide to go after old Toothytits, it'll be too late. Thick ****s.

[Ash]

I wouldn't bet on them sweeping the board. There's effectively only one way Unionists can vote in Scotland now, after all...

Well he's been charged with attempted rape and sexual assault, so they've convinced the Procurator Fiscal to take it to court...

Charged. Not proven. Unless all accusers are now to be believed unconditionally. #MeToo

And Unionist votes count for nothing under FPTP if they are in a minority and not constituency-based.

[Pokster]

Yeah, what an electoral liability the two-time London mayor :rolleyes:

Winning elections doesn't make you a good politician.... I assume you think Tony Blair was bloody brilliant as a PM for the UK then?

[Burney]

Charged. Not proven. Unless all accusers are now to be believed unconditionally. #MeToo

And Unionist votes count for nothing under FPTP if they are in a minority and not constituency-based.

What I'm saying is that they're not just a smear, but serious charges with actual evidence behind them. And they're serious enough for the SNP to be sufficiently worried about the political damage they could do to allow an election to take place beforehand. Draw your own conclusions from that. :shrug:

[Pokster]

...and leader of the notoriously unsuccessful 2016 Leave campaing. :hehe:

As I've pointed out for years, whatever you think about him, the one thing you have to admit about Boris is that he wins elections.

I never said he doesn't win elections, I just believe he will be a cluster**** of a PM over the next 5 years

[Burney]

Winning elections doesn't make you a good politician.... I assume you think Tony Blair was bloody brilliant as a PM for the UK then?

I didn't say it did. However, there's fúck all point being a good politicians if you can't win elections.