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IUFG
07-30-2019, 09:16 AM
great idea, imo

but why not at professional level?

http://www.thefa.com/news/2019/jul/29/sin-bins-launched-for-2019-20-season-290719

I'd have been in them fairly often had they been around in my time tbh

WES
07-30-2019, 09:34 AM
great idea, imo

but why not at professional level?

http://www.thefa.com/news/2019/jul/29/sin-bins-launched-for-2019-20-season-290719

I'd have been in them fairly often had they been around in my time tbh

Agreed - a clear flaw in the game, the fact that you can only punish someone for persistent fouling with the threat of expulsion from the game. :nod:

AFC East
07-30-2019, 09:55 AM
Agreed - a clear flaw in the game, the fact that you can only punish someone for persistent fouling with the threat of expulsion from the game. :nod:

Good idea in principle, but would it improve the game? Wouldn't the team with fewer players just become more defensive for 10 mins? I like the idea of using it for dissent. Refs get treated like **** by the players, doesn't happen in egg chasing.

Burney
07-30-2019, 10:18 AM
Good idea in principle, but would it improve the game? Wouldn't the team with fewer players just become more defensive for 10 mins? I like the idea of using it for dissent. Refs get treated like **** by the players, doesn't happen in egg chasing.

It doesn't happen in rugby precisely because it is ruthlessly penalised. By contrast, in football if a referee attempts to discipline players for dissent, he's instantly criticised for 'spoiling the game' or 'making it all about him'.

IUFG
07-30-2019, 10:39 AM
By contrast, in football if a referee attempts to discipline players for dissent, he's instantly criticised for 'spoiling the game' or 'making it all about him'.

Well, I'd certainly say that about Mike Dean, whether he justifiably binned someone or otherwise...

AFC East
07-30-2019, 10:09 PM
It doesn't happen in rugby precisely because it is ruthlessly penalised. By contrast, in football if a referee attempts to discipline players for dissent, he's instantly criticised for 'spoiling the game' or 'making it all about him'.

Indeed. But isn’t this rule a step to eradicate that?

Pokster
07-31-2019, 08:13 AM
Indeed. But isn’t this rule a step to eradicate that?

Yes!

I ref junior football matches and anything that stops the little ****s calling me a bald old has been is to be applauded imho

WES
07-31-2019, 08:13 AM
It doesn't happen in rugby precisely because it is ruthlessly penalised. By contrast, in football if a referee attempts to discipline players for dissent, he's instantly criticised for 'spoiling the game' or 'making it all about him'.

I think the referee tends to receive that criticism almost entirely when he sends someone off.

Had he the option of a sin bin that would occur far less often, I think.

WES
07-31-2019, 08:15 AM
It doesn't happen in rugby precisely because it is ruthlessly penalised. By contrast, in football if a referee attempts to discipline players for dissent, he's instantly criticised for 'spoiling the game' or 'making it all about him'.

Oh, and in rugby the referee has the option of moving the ball forward/backward by some number of yards which tends to shut the players up pretty quickly when it happens. As would the sin bin option.