'Man finds own amputated leg on cigarette packets without consent'

[Burney]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49029845?ns_source=twitter&ns_mchannel=social&ocid=socialflow_twitter&ns_campaign=bbcnews

I have to say that the tendency to to plaster deformity/amputee porn all over cigarette packets is one of the most repellent developments of the last decade or so. When you go somewhere where they don't cover up the fags, you're just confronted with this solid wall of amputations, growths, throat-holes, gangrenous extremities, diseased lungs and rotten teeth. It's fúcking rank.

[Pokster]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49029845?ns_source=twitter&ns_mchannel=social&ocid=socialflow_twitter&ns_campaign=bbcnews

I have to say that the tendency to to plaster deformity/amputee porn all over cigarette packets is one of the most repellent developments of the last decade or so. When you go somewhere where they don't cover up the fags, you're just confronted with this solid wall of amputations, growths, throat-holes, gangrenous extremities, diseased lungs and rotten teeth. It's fúcking rank.

So is smoking imho

[Burney]

So is smoking imho

Even if that's true, this does nothing to stop smoking. :shrug:

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49029845?ns_source=twitter&ns_mchannel=social&ocid=socialflow_twitter&ns_campaign=bbcnews

I have to say that the tendency to to plaster deformity/amputee porn all over cigarette packets is one of the most repellent developments of the last decade or so. When you go somewhere where they don't cover up the fags, you're just confronted with this solid wall of amputations, growths, throat-holes, gangrenous extremities, diseased lungs and rotten teeth. It's fúcking rank.

Read thon book Sir C recommended. You'll then consider such imagery light hearted and jolly.

[Pokster]

Even if that's true, this does nothing to stop smoking. :shrug:

Doesn't it??? I would have thought it would be the perfect way to stop kids buying cigs

[Pokster]

Even if that's true, this does nothing to stop smoking. :shrug:

2 million fewer smokers than 2011...not saying the graphic images is the cause but it must have helped play some small part in it

[IUFG]

2 million fewer smokers than 2011...not saying the graphic images is the cause but it must have helped play some small part in it

when I stopped I started to notice the breath of those who smoked :puke:

if every smoker could smell that on themselves, they'd fúcking stop.

[Sir C]

Read thon book Sir C recommended. You'll then consider such imagery light hearted and jolly.

Ha! You got to the good bits, then.

[Sir C]

when I stopped I started to notice the breath of those who smoked :puke:

if every smoker could smell that on themselves, they'd fúcking stop.

Two years now since I stopped.

I quite fancy taking it up again. I miss not having the comforting weight of my Zippo in my pocket, and having an excuse to pop out inot the fresh air from time to time.

[Tony C]

He lost his leg in an assault...DETAILS PLEASE!

Funny I saw that picture in Tescos and thought it was over the top. Glad to know it’s fake.

Not a patch on the Canadian warnings..picture of baby with 2nd hand smoke around her and the message - please don’t kill me.

[Pat Vegas]

2 million fewer smokers than 2011...not saying the graphic images is the cause but it must have helped play some small part in it

rise in vaping and astronmical price increases I reckon.

[Ash]

Anywon want a couple hundred packets of green rizzla?

30g of baccy has for the last few years comes with one of the above, and I use silver. Seems such a waste to chuck 'em out after having to pay 50p each.

Peter, are you out there?

[Burney]

Read thon book Sir C recommended. You'll then consider such imagery light hearted and jolly.

The Wolf and the Watchman? Oh, yes. That's all good fun. I must say, I did laugh when the author first doubled down on the grimness by making the poor chap become the shít-eating sexual plaything of perverted toffs. :hehe:

[Burney]

2 million fewer smokers than 2011...not saying the graphic images is the cause but it must have helped play some small part in it

No, the average price of a pack being £10.40 and fashion are the main reasons for that. The torture porn is entirely incidental.

[Pokster]

No, the average price of a pack being £10.40 and fashion are the main reasons for that. The torture porn is entirely incidental.
I said it wasn't the main reason, but it will certainly have helped along with the other points made...... it isn't classed as cool to smoke, so having pictures of blacked up lungs etc will help reduce it

[Burney]

rise in vaping and astronmical price increases I reckon.

The biggest group of smokers are 25-34 year-olds. If anti-smoking propaganda worked, none of them would smoke.

[Burney]

I said it wasn't the main reason, but it will certainly have helped along with the other points made...... it isn't classed as cool to smoke, so having pictures of blacked up lungs etc will help reduce it

No, I'm afraid it is still cool to smoke. I have a daughter and four nieces over 18. All are achingly cool. All smoke. All of them took up smoking in the period when these images were on packets. None of them cares about the pictures because young people don't think they'll ever die and so don't think such things apply to them.

[IUFG]

The biggest group of smokers are 25-34 year-olds. If anti-smoking propaganda worked, none of them would smoke.

yeah, but... loads of them don't drink.
How does that work?
The wokers are smokers?

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

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I have to say that the tendency to to plaster deformity/amputee porn all over cigarette packets is one of the most repellent developments of the last decade or so. When you go somewhere where they don't cover up the fags, you're just confronted with this solid wall of amputations, growths, throat-holes, gangrenous extremities, diseased lungs and rotten teeth. It's fúcking rank.

Much better in the old days when in F1 it was the black and gold JPSs against the red and white Malboro McClarens.

Wish they'd had B&H. With Mayfairs at the back of the field on a shoe string budget.

[Pokster]

No, I'm afraid it is still cool to smoke. I have a daughter and four nieces over 18. All are achingly cool. All smoke. All of them took up smoking in the period when these images were on packets. None of them cares about the pictures because young people don't think they'll ever die and so don't think such things apply to them.

Sorry? You think it is still cool to smoke? Are we back in the 1970's?

Saying the pictures don't work is absolute *******s imo, if they didn't work they would have canned the idea a long time ago.

[Pat Vegas]

The biggest group of smokers are 25-34 year-olds. If anti-smoking propaganda worked, none of them would smoke.

I still smoke the packets don't put me off. I just ignore the pictures completely.

[Pat Vegas]

Sorry? You think it is still cool to smoke? Are we back in the 1970's?

Saying the pictures don't work is absolute *******s imo, if they didn't work they would have canned the idea a long time ago.

I don't think they work. For starters all fags are hidden in shops now.
They might scare a kid who sees there mum smoke.

I find it intersting Marlboro is still 23rd on Forbes most valuable brands list. Not bad for a company who can't advertise.

[Burney]

Sorry? You think it is still cool to smoke? Are we back in the 1970's?

Saying the pictures don't work is absolute *******s imo, if they didn't work they would have canned the idea a long time ago.

Of course it's cool to smoke. There is literally no other reason to do it. :shrug:

And no. Governments like putting the pictures on packets because it appeases authoritarian. finger-wagging nanny state types like you and makes it look like they're doing something. If you seriously believe government and its agencies only keep doing things because they work, you seriously haven;'t been paying attention. :hehe:

[Burney]

I don't think they work. For starters all fags are hidden in shops now.
They might scare a kid who sees there mum smoke.

I find it intersting Marlboro is still 23rd on Forbes most valuable brands list. Not bad for a company who can't advertise.

This is the only possible argument in favour of this - and it's morally repugnant. But these people have no scruples about terrorising and traumatising children in order to get adults to do what they want.

[Sir C]

Sorry? You think it is still cool to smoke? Are we back in the 1970's?

Saying the pictures don't work is absolute *******s imo, if they didn't work they would have canned the idea a long time ago.

Two words: James. Dean.

[Pokster]

Of course it's cool to smoke. There is literally no other reason to do it. :shrug:

And no. Governments like putting the pictures on packets because it appeases authoritarian. finger-wagging nanny state types like you and makes it look like they're doing something. If you seriously believe government and its agencies only keep doing things because they work, you seriously haven;'t been paying attention. :hehe:

I think they smoke because it is addictive...try it for a while and can't give it up. Not rocket science is it

[Pokster]

Two words: James. Dean.

And when did he die? It was cool then, not now

[Pat Vegas]

This is the only possible argument in favour of this - and its morally repugnant. But these people have no scruples about terrorising and traumatising children in order to get adults to do what they want.

my grandmother used to smoke and when I was a kid I was probably a little annoying prick telling her she would die and to stop.
so nothing really has changed.

And plenty of people have sene relatives die in horrendous ways from smoking and still smoke.

[Ash]

Much better in the old days when in F1 it was the black and gold JPSs against the red and white Malboro McClarens.

Wish they'd had B&H. With Mayfairs at the back of the field on a shoe string budget.

Two absolutely iconic liveries. I still support McLaren to this day because of their old red and white kit. And smoked Marbs for a few years. The Lotus 72 especially was an amazing looking beastie. :bow:

https://www.lotusespritturbo.com/Lotus_72.jpg

B&H sponsored Jordan in the 90's.

[IUFG]

Two words: James. Dean.

Is it also cool to die in a road traffic collision?

[Burney]

I think they smoke because it is addictive...try it for a while and can't give it up. Not rocket science is it

Do try and think it through, p. Why would they even try it if it didn't have any social cachet - let alone go back to it? I can assure you it's not the taste.
You may not realise this, but you don't instantly get addicted to cigarettes. It takes effort. You have to go through a few weeks of doing something actively unpleasant before it becomes enjoyable (ie an addiction). Why on earth would you do that if there weren't other social factors at work?

Of course smoking is cool. The fact that most people aren't cool and so don't smoke does not disprove this.

[Pokster]

my grandmother used to smoke and when I was a kid I was probably a little annoying prick telling her she would die and to stop.
so nothing really has changed.

And plenty of people have sene relatives die in horrendous ways from smoking and still smoke.

And I haven't smoked since my mum died of cancer, so i would suggest plenty of people have decided not to smoke because they have seen what it does.

Also the reason I don't really drink, because it killed my Dad

[Ash]

Two words: James. Dean.

Lauren Bacall.

[Burney]

Is it also cool to die in a road traffic collision?

It is if you look like a Greek God and you're driving a Porsche Spyder far too fast.

[Pokster]

Do try and think it through, p. Why would they even try it if it didn't have any social cachet - let alone go back to it? I can assure you it's not the taste.
You may not realise this, but you don't instantly get addicted to cigarettes. It takes effort. You have to go through a few weeks of doing something actively unpleasant before it becomes enjoyable (ie an addiction). Why on earth would you do that if there weren't other social factors at work?

Of course smoking is cool. The fact that most people aren't cool and so don't smoke does not disprove this.

They try it for plenty of reasons, to appear grown up, peer pressure, so it is not down to being seen to be cool

[Burney]

Two absolutely iconic liveries. I still support McLaren to this day because of their old red and white kit. And smoked Marbs for a few years. The Lotus 72 especially was an amazing looking beastie. :bow:

https://www.lotusespritturbo.com/Lotus_72.jpg

B&H sponsored Jordan in the 90's.

JPS were terrible fags, though.

[Pokster]

Lauren Bacall.

Waynetta Slob

[Burney]

They try it for plenty of reasons, to appear grown up, peer pressure, so it is not down to being seen to be cool

:hehe: There's never any peer pressure to be uncool, p. There's only ever peer pressure to be cool.

And nobody wants to emulate uncool grown-up things like paying bills or getting life insurance. They want to emulate illicit, forbidden things like sex, drugs, drink and smoking.

[IUFG]

Waynetta Slob


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzPZfz3IgcM

[Sir C]

It is if you look like a Greek God and you're driving a Porsche Spyder far too fast.

To be honest any speed in a Porsche 356 is too fast. They were, quite literally, death traps.

[Sir C]

And I haven't smoked since my mum died of cancer, so i would suggest plenty of people have decided not to smoke because they have seen what it does.

Also the reason I don't really drink, because it killed my Dad

Do you want to live forever?

[Pokster]

Do you want to live forever?

The way things have been the last 18 months....no.

I don't want to learn how to fly, high either

[Burney]

To be honest any speed in a Porsche 356 is too fast. They were, quite literally, death traps.

Yes, so I understand. I was trying to work out at what point the whole scenario transformed from 'cool' to 'a bit shít, actually'? Was it when he fúcked it to the extent of crashing head-on with a Ford, when impact took place or when he got all mangled and died?

I think it's important to decide where the cool/shít line was crossed.

[Sir C]

Yes, so I understand. I was trying to work out at what point the whole scenario transformed from 'cool' to 'a bit shít, actually'? Was it when he fúcked it to the extent of crashing head-on with a Ford, when impact took place or when he got all mangled and died?

I think it's important to decide where the cool/shít line was crossed.

Surely there's something cool about his mangled remains in the wreckage? Like Chris Kristofferson at the end of A Star Is Born.

Write yourself off in a Ferrari/Porsche = cool as fúck.

[Burney]

Surely there's something cool about his mangled remains in the wreckage? Like Chris Kristofferson at the end of A Star Is Born.

Write yourself off in a Ferrari/Porsche = cool as fúck.

Spoiler alert, ffs!

Generally, though, yes. It's important that you do die, though. There's nothing cool about being a quadraspaz and breathing through a tube.

[Ash]

JPS were terrible fags, though.

indeed. Hence the Marbs.

[IUFG]

Spoiler alert, ffs!

Generally, though, yes. It's important that you do die, though. There's nothing cool about being a quadraspaz and breathing through a tube.

You could put a Marlboro on the end of the tube. Instant coolness. :shrug:

[Burney]

You could put a Marlboro on the end of the tube. Instant coolness. :shrug:

Yes. Always had a sneaking admiration for those chaps who would smoke through their tracheotomy holes. Impressive not to let a little thing like not having a larynx stop you from enjoying your fags.

[IUFG]

Yes. Always had a sneaking admiration for those chaps who would smoke through their tracheotomy holes. Impressive not to let a little thing like not having a larynx stop you from enjoying your fags.

I've always admired those dedicated to their sport, tbh
https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/hlc.son.assets/345b61b6-6b25-11e4-9c82-22000a25a815

[Burney]

I've always admired those dedicated to their sport, tbh
https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/hlc.son.assets/345b61b6-6b25-11e4-9c82-22000a25a815

Pipe smokers are proper wronguns, though.

[IUFG]

Pipe smokers are proper wronguns, though.

I agree.

David Prescott, the kitchen floor shítter, smoked a pipe. What a ****.

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

The Wolf and the Watchman? Oh, yes. That's all good fun. I must say, I did laugh when the author first doubled down on the grimness by making the poor chap become the shít-eating sexual plaything of perverted toffs. :hehe:

Aye. It conjured images which I cannot now un-see

It did become rather weighed down by the need to add an unexpected dramatic twist to even the most peripheral sub-plot. I think the author had the last laugh though by managing to fashion, after so much dante-esque horror, something approaching a happy ending :hehe:

[Burney]

Aye. It conjured images which I cannot now un-see

It did become rather weighed down by the need to add an unexpected dramatic twist to even the most peripheral sub-plot. I think the author had the last laugh though by managing to fashion, after so much dante-esque horror, something approaching a happy ending :hehe:

I did think that removing all his teeth so they could all orally sodomise him without negative consequences was a nice touch.

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

I did think that removing all his teeth so they could all orally sodomise him without negative consequences was a nice touch.

I reckon if I wrote a modern noir under a Scandi nom-de-plume in which the protaganist kills his victims by plucking out an eyeball and sodomising the bloody socket, it would cause quite a stir :-D - shame I can't write.

You do it b and buy me a beer for the idea!

[Burney]

I reckon if I wrote a modern noir under a Scandi nom-de-plume in which the protaganist kills his victims by plucking out an eyeball and sodomising the bloody socket, it would cause quite a stir :-D - shame I can't write.

You do it b and buy me a beer for the idea!

Hmmm. Not being a Swede, I'm not sure I could muster the requisite levels of gory perversion, h. That said, I do like the idea of you - who have offered people the most baroque sado-sexual tortures on here over the years - getting all queasy over a book. :hehe:

You're a sensitive wee flower underneath it all, h, aren't you? ;-)

[barrybueno]

No, I'm afraid it is still cool to smoke. I have a daughter and four nieces over 18. All are achingly cool. All smoke. All of them took up smoking in the period when these images were on packets. None of them cares about the pictures because young people don't think they'll ever die and so don't think such things apply to them.

You err... wouldn't...err.. happen to err... have any pictures of said nieces?

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

You're a sensitive wee flower underneath it all, h, aren't you? ;-)

You needn't think that kind of sweet talk's getting me into that shed of yours ;-)