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Monty92
04-25-2019, 10:03 AM
What's your charcoal of choice? Hardwood lump? Any favoured brands? Where do you purchase?

Do you chuck woodchip on top?

Also, recipes. Gimme recipes.

Thanks.

Maravilloso Marvo
04-25-2019, 10:23 AM
Get yourself on this website

https://amazingribs.com/

You have a lot to learn and a long journey ahead, but it will be worthwhile.

Sir C
04-25-2019, 10:31 AM
What's your charcoal of choice? Hardwood lump? Any favoured brands? Where do you purchase?

Do you chuck woodchip on top?

Also, recipes. Gimme recipes.

Thanks.

What have you bought?

I use hardwood lump, obviously. I generally use Big K Restaurant Grade, but I've just bought a box of Kamado Big Block and a bag of CPL to try as well. I order from Amazon.

Make sure you have proper lighting technique. For God's sake avoid chemicals! There are plenty on the market.

There's little point having a smoker if you don't apply some wood for, you know, smoke. Take care not to add too much, and research which wood suits which dishes. Apple makes sense with pork, for example, or oak with beef.

Make sure you have a good probe thermometer. I use a Meater for large joints, a Thermopro Dual for smaller cuts and a Habor for instant read.

Temperature control is key. You simply have to practise. If I were you I would start with large pork shoulders as these are quite forgiving.

As for recipes, there are a million youtube videos out there, but the basic rules are usually the same: apply your rub of choice (I tend to make my own because commercial ones contain too much sugar for me) bang your meat on the grill, spend 8 hours making your barbecue sauce, checking the temperature and drinking beer, then eat about a 20th of the enormous lump of meat you've ruined :cloud9:

Sir C
04-25-2019, 10:34 AM
What's your charcoal of choice? Hardwood lump? Any favoured brands? Where do you purchase?

Do you chuck woodchip on top?

Also, recipes. Gimme recipes.

Thanks.

Also get yourself a decent injector and prepare to squirt apple juice and vinegar into your meat.

Herbert Augustus Chapman
04-25-2019, 10:36 AM
spend 8 hours making your barbecue sauce, checking the temperature and drinking beer, then eat about a 20th of the enormous lump of meat you've ruined :cloud9:

That lazy little **** Monty is now already in the process of sending it back. A leetle beet too much work d'ya see :hehe:

Sir C
04-25-2019, 10:39 AM
That lazy little **** Monty is now already in the process of sending it back. A leetle beet too much work d'ya see :hehe:

It's not work though h, is it? It's... man's work. :cloud9:

Monty92
04-25-2019, 10:42 AM
What have you bought?

I use hardwood lump, obviously. I generally use Big K Restaurant Grade, but I've just bought a box of Kamado Big Block and a bag of CPL to try as well. I order from Amazon.

Make sure you have proper lighting technique. For God's sake avoid chemicals! There are plenty on the market.

There's little point having a smoker if you don't apply some wood for, you know, smoke. Take care not to add too much, and research which wood suits which dishes. Apple makes sense with pork, for example, or oak with beef.

Make sure you have a good probe thermometer. I use a Meater for large joints, a Thermopro Dual for smaller cuts and a Habor for instant read.

Temperature control is key. You simply have to practise. If I were you I would start with large pork shoulders as these are quite forgiving.

As for recipes, there are a million youtube videos out there, but the basic rules are usually the same: apply your rub of choice (I tend to make my own because commercial ones contain too much sugar for me) bang your meat on the grill, spend 8 hours making your barbecue sauce, checking the temperature and drinking beer, then eat about a 20th of the enormous lump of meat you've ruined :cloud9:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00S7JF45M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thanks man. This is all useful.

I was reading that briquettes are better for smoking, and lumpwood for standard grilling, as briquettes stay hot for longer.

I got me a charcoal starter for ease of lighting:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003O5WC22/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Sir C
04-25-2019, 10:45 AM
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00S7JF45M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thanks man. This is all useful.

I was reading that bruquettes are better for smoking, and lumpwood for standard grilling, as bruquettes stay hot for longer.

I got me a charcoal starter for ease of lighting:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003O5WC22/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Nice. Be interesting to see hear how it goes.

BBriquettes contain chemicals. One load of decent lumpwood burns for 12 hours in my Kamado.

A starter chimney is good but beware; use only kitchen paper and vegetable oil to get it going, NOI CHEMICALS! and don't let your charcoal go too long or else you'll never keep the temperature down. You want it barely burning when it goies into the smoker.

Ash
04-25-2019, 10:50 AM
How was the pub, Monty?

Monty92
04-25-2019, 10:50 AM
That lazy little **** Monty is now already in the process of sending it back. A leetle beet too much work d'ya see :hehe:

I spent 3 hours constructing a trampoline for the garden the other day. I've had to moisturise my hands about 6 times a day to get them back to their previous condition :-(

Viva Prat Vegas
04-25-2019, 10:53 AM
Are all your possessions still stuck in transit in North London?

Monty92
04-25-2019, 10:57 AM
How was the pub, Monty?

There was a darts competition going on, so the barman told me I'm better off watching on the TV in the beer garden. Went in the garden and the wood cabin where the game was on was occupied by 18-year-old townies being ghastly. Went back inside and perched in one of the only available paces, right by the front door, which kept on banging against me whenever someone entered.

I miss London :-(

On the plus side, picked up the filthiest Chinky takeaway you could ever imagine on the way home, which came to about a tenner for two. Chips in curry sauce!!!! From a Chinese takeway!!!!!1111!!! :cloud9:

Monty92
04-25-2019, 10:58 AM
Are all your possessions still stuck in transit in North London?

No, but the removal company seem to have lost two of our boxes along the way :rolleyes:

Viva Prat Vegas
04-25-2019, 11:01 AM
:-(
Insurance claim

IUFG
04-25-2019, 11:04 AM
I've had to moisturise my hands about 6 times a day to get them back to their previous condition :-(

very, very thinly veiled "I'm a massive transer" post imo

Pat Vegas
04-25-2019, 11:05 AM
Are all your possessions still stuck in transit in North London?

The North Circular is a pain in the arse :-(

Monty92
04-25-2019, 11:05 AM
very, very thinly veiled "I'm a massive transer" post imo

Very thinly veiled "I've got improbably smooth hands that would look great wrapped around your cock" post, imo.

IUFG
04-25-2019, 11:21 AM
Very thinly veiled "I've got improbably smooth hands that would look great wrapped around your cock" post, imo.

you would need to be a (soon to be struck off) Forensic Pathologist for that to happen, m.

:nono:

Monty92
04-25-2019, 11:33 AM
you would need to be a (soon to be struck off) Forensic Pathologist for that to happen, m.

:nono:

Is that rigamortis or are you just pleased to see me?

Herbert Augustus Chapman
04-25-2019, 12:53 PM
It's not work though h, is it? It's... man's work. :cloud9:

Now Monty's bottom lip will be trembling too. I'll wager he has never held a spanner or a hammer or mixed up some concrete or eaten any pussy or nothin' manly .... ever!

Sir C
04-25-2019, 12:56 PM
Now Monty's bottom lip will be trembling too. I'll wager he has never held a spanner or a hammer or mixed up some concrete or eaten any pussy or nothin' manly .... ever!

He would jizz his pants if he saw my Dewalt cordless drill.

Mind you, I've owned it for 3 years and never charged it. :-(

The Insider
04-26-2019, 06:13 PM
Back to the original point, I live in Ashdown Forest where we make our own charcoal, do I win £5?

Sir C
04-26-2019, 07:14 PM
Back to the original point, I live in Ashdown Forest where we make our own charcoal, do I win £5?

Hmm. I’ve read about you forest folk. The charcoal burners. You live in huts made of bent branches. And you’re basically child catchers, no?

Bit weird, but ok.

Chief Arrowhead
04-27-2019, 12:12 PM
Get yourself on this website

https://amazingribs.com/

You have a lot to learn and a long journey ahead, but it will be worthwhile.

100% spot on Marvo!!! Their recommendations are always right as far as equipment and they lean towards the science of the cook, which is my preferred method as a rationale for what I do. And I have the bonafides as a passionate backyard BBQer. I've been a competition judge for years, but those teams are insane!

https://stlouisbbqsociety.com/

I've tutored a Brit for awhile and one thing I found is that your meats are cut differently as a general rule so it's a real find if you can locate a butcher who gets it and can create a product both in cow and pig that resembles what you are reading about on the websites. For example it is difficult to find a true packer brisket with the flat and the point conjoined. Instead it is customery to grind up the point and ROLL THE FLAT and bundle it up. Forget what y'all call it.
We learned to unroll it for a cook, but they also trim off too much fat before rolling. Frustrating!

Let me know if I can help.

Good Luck and Happy Cooking,

Chief

Chief Arrowhead
04-27-2019, 12:36 PM
What have you bought?

I use hardwood lump, obviously. I generally use Big K Restaurant Grade, but I've just bought a box of Kamado Big Block and a bag of CPL to try as well. I order from Amazon.

Make sure you have proper lighting technique. For God's sake avoid chemicals! There are plenty on the market.

There's little point having a smoker if you don't apply some wood for, you know, smoke. Take care not to add too much, and research which wood suits which dishes. Apple makes sense with pork, for example, or oak with beef.

Make sure you have a good probe thermometer. I use a Meater for large joints, a Thermopro Dual for smaller cuts and a Habor for instant read.

Temperature control is key. You simply have to practise. If I were you I would start with large pork shoulders as these are quite forgiving.

As for recipes, there are a million youtube videos out there, but the basic rules are usually the same: apply your rub of choice (I tend to make my own because commercial ones contain too much sugar for me) bang your meat on the grill, spend 8 hours making your barbecue sauce, checking the temperature and drinking beer, then eat about a 20th of the enormous lump of meat you've ruined :cloud9:

Yes! Yes! Yes! Impressive, Sir C. Didn't your likes existed in the UK. Impressed!

this is my choice in temp probes. A dual read is great, but I prefer them separate as when one goes wonky you're gonna end up with two anyways. Or I always have. BIte the bullet and pay, it pays for itself many times over. I panic if it's misplaced!

https://www.thermoworks.com/Thermapen-Mk4?gclid=CjwKCAjw-4_mBRBuEiwA5xnFIEolkh_Q90Hesqz4i5p8mTjB-l5-TggmR7VeOVEuHIJe4egU9zL5BxoC58MQAvD_BwE

Spot on on the wood for the cook. Use it at the beginning as smoke won't get into the meat after it gets above 100 (35C?). Fruit wood for pig, hardwood (oak, mesquite, hickory) for the cow. Lately I've been using pecan for ribs and using a sweeter (boiled down apple juice/brownsugar mixture) fora light glaze at the end.

I also use nothing but charcoal any more and I;m stuck on Kingsford. Their competition charcoal is not advisable as it burns too hot and you have to turn the vents to almost nothing.

Agree on making your own rub, but I quit making my own sauce as there are too many varieties that I like and don't like to have just one choice. I got about 15 different bottles taking up space in my fridge. Plus, I confess, I;m too lazy.

If you're motivated and can get it delivered, SirC, try Arthur Bryant's ORIGINAL. Zero sugar. I warn it is an acquired taste, but it has a pristine pedigree. It is the keystone of Kansas City BBQ joints. Many Presidents have eaten there. It is a rite of passage for native Kansas Citians, like me!

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=arthur+bryant+sauce&hvadid=214176092392&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9022877&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=1620157497138154853&hvtargid=kwd-297525279801&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_rz84o90ms_e

p.s. Their sweet heat sauce has a great balance.

Chief Arrowhead
04-27-2019, 12:39 PM
Nice. Be interesting to see hear how it goes.

BBriquettes contain chemicals. One load of decent lumpwood burns for 12 hours in my Kamado.

A starter chimney is good but beware; use only kitchen paper and vegetable oil to get it going, NOI CHEMICALS! and don't let your charcoal go too long or else you'll never keep the temperature down. You want it barely burning when it goies into the smoker.

There should be no chemicals in proper charcoal. As least there isn't in what I get here.

Sir C
04-27-2019, 12:45 PM
Yes! Yes! Yes! Impressive, Sir C. Didn't your likes existed in the UK. Impressed!

this is my choice in temp probes. A dual read is great, but I prefer them separate as when one goes wonky you're gonna end up with two anyways. Or I always have. BIte the bullet and pay, it pays for itself many times over. I panic if it's misplaced!

https://www.thermoworks.com/Thermapen-Mk4?gclid=CjwKCAjw-4_mBRBuEiwA5xnFIEolkh_Q90Hesqz4i5p8mTjB-l5-TggmR7VeOVEuHIJe4egU9zL5BxoC58MQAvD_BwE

Spot on on the wood for the cook. Use it at the beginning as smoke won't get into the meat after it gets above 100 (35C?). Fruit wood for pig, hardwood (oak, mesquite, hickory) for the cow. Lately I've been using pecan for ribs and using a sweeter (boiled down apple juice/brownsugar mixture) fora light glaze at the end.

I also use nothing but charcoal any more and I;m stuck on Kingsford. Their competition charcoal is not advisable as it burns too hot and you have to turn the vents to almost nothing.

Agree on making your own rub, but I quit making my own sauce as there are too many varieties that I like and don't like to have just one choice. I got about 15 different bottles taking up space in my fridge. Plus, I confess, I;m too lazy.

If you're motivated and can get it delivered, SirC, try Arthur Bryant's ORIGINAL. Zero sugar. I warn it is an acquired taste, but it has a pristine pedigree. It is the keystone of Kansas City BBQ joints. Many Presidents have eaten there. It is a rite of passage for native Kansas Citians, like me!

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=arthur+bryant+sauce&hvadid=214176092392&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9022877&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=1620157497138154853&hvtargid=kwd-297525279801&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_rz84o90ms_e

p.s. Their sweet heat sauce has a great balance.

Thanks chief, I’ll see about getting some of that delivered.