How is it possible to be wrong about every. single. thing.

[Sir C]

It's baffling. :shrug:

"Diane Abbott urges PM to block Julian Assange extradition."

Is there some lefty university course that drums into you the mantra, "When examining an issue always seek the immoral course of action."

[Ash]

She's right about this, but I'm not going to argue about it because I can't be bothered.

You think I'm immoral - so be it.

[Sir C]

She's right about this, but I'm not going to argue about it because I can't be bothered.

You think I'm immoral - so be it.

I don't for a second think you're immoral. We happen to disagree on this issue but I know you to be a thinking, cogent human being.

The Abbotts and Corbyns of our benighted land neither think nor feel. They will always choose the anti-establishment, or anti_West, or anti-Amerika, or anti-Israel view, whether right or wrong. That's what's immoral.

[PSRB]

It's baffling. :shrug:

"Diane Abbott urges PM to block Julian Assange extradition."

Is there some lefty university course that drums into you the mantra, "When examining an issue always seek the immoral course of action."

David Lammy manages it

[Monty92]

David Lammy manages it

There's not a single part of me that wouldn't be absolutely overjoyed if Lammy got Jo Cox'ed.

I don't know if he has kids, I don't know if he has a sick parent who desperately relies upon the physical and emotional support of their son.

I just want him to get deaded :shrug:

[Burney]

She's right about this, but I'm not going to argue about it because I can't be bothered.

You think I'm immoral - so be it.

OK. Putting aside the fact that her reason for not allowing him to be extradited in order to face trial is that the charges against him have not been tested in a court of law (which you have to agree is monstrously fúcking stupid given that he avoided that happening by hiding in the Embassy), can we just take a look at the rank hypocrisy of saying 'We believe all rape victims - unless the accused is someone we see as an ally'?
Or perhaps we ought to consider for one moment the sheer horror of having a putative Home Secretary (in other words the person who would hold ultimate responsibility for our security services and police) who refuses to accept the necessity of states keeping certain information secret or accept that individuals do not have the right to divulge state secrets without regard for the consequences?

I'm sorry, a, but this is not acceptable on any level.

[WES]

There's not a single part of me that wouldn't be absolutely overjoyed if Lammy got Jo Cox'ed.

I don't know if he has kids, I don't know if he has a sick parent who desperately relies upon the physical and emotional support of their son.

I just want him to get deaded :shrug:

Iz it coz he iz black, Monty?

Went to Harvard Law School so he ain't stupid. What's he done?

[Sir C]

Iz it coz he iz black, Monty?

Went to Harvard Law School so he ain't stupid. What's he done?

He's clearly a fúcking genius.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCtX03pT8Wc

[Burney]

There's not a single part of me that wouldn't be absolutely overjoyed if Lammy got Jo Cox'ed.

I don't know if he has kids, I don't know if he has a sick parent who desperately relies upon the physical and emotional support of their son.

I just want him to get deaded :shrug:

I tend to agree. The other day, Remain MPs were whining about feeling threatened and having nasty words said to them and I thought: 'You know what? Good. If our elected representatives choose to set themselves in opposition to those who elected them, they absolutely should be frightened.'

A few MPs dangling from lampposts pour encourager les autres would be no bad thing.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

He's clearly a fúcking genius.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCtX03pT8Wc

Looooool. That’s like something from Brass Eye.

[Burney]

Iz it coz he iz black, Monty?

Went to Harvard Law School so he ain't stupid. What's he done?

Diane Abbot went to Cambridge. She is stupid. These things are not incompatible.

[WES]

Diane Abbot went to Cambridge. She is stupid. These things are not incompatible.

Yeah but in her case she *must* have gone as part of some special program for stupid minorities. Must have.

[Burney]

He's clearly a fúcking genius.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCtX03pT8Wc

I do get sick of this notion that where somebody went to school or university is proof of intelligence. It is - apart from anything else - fantastically reductive.

The other day I was thinking about it and realised that many of the people whose intelligence I most respect have never been near a university. Equally, I know a number of people with PhDs I wouldn't leave alone with a box of matches.

Much of what we laughingly call education consists of box-ticking exercises and is in and of itself no proof of intelligence whatsoever.

[Burney]

Yeah but in her case she *must* have gone as part of some special program for stupid minorities. Must have.

See also: David Lammy. :shrug:

[WES]

See also: David Lammy. :shrug:

Well, I have no idea who he is or how he got in but getting into Harvard law School is no easy feat and much less likely to be achieved by someone as thick as Diane Abbott I would think.

Cambridge, I'm willing to bet, has a disadvantaged minority program which someone like Abbott could take advantage of.

[WES]

I do get sick of this notion that where somebody went to school or university is proof of intelligence. It is - apart from anything else - fantastically reductive.

The other day I was thinking about it and realised that many of the people whose intelligence I most respect have never been near a university. Equally, I know a number of people with PhDs I wouldn't leave alone with a box of matches.

Much of what we laughingly call education consists of box-ticking exercises and is in and of itself no proof of intelligence whatsoever.

But you aren't making the argument that people with degrees are not more likely to be intelligent than those that do not, are you?

Because you know that isn't true.

[Burney]

Well, I have no idea who he is or how he got in but getting into Harvard law School is no easy feat and much less likely to be achieved by someone as thick as Diane Abbott I would think.

Cambridge, I'm willing to bet, has a disadvantaged minority program which someone like Abbott could take advantage of.

He is a blustering, race-baiting moron incapable of mustering a single cogent argument that cannot be torn to pieces by a moment's logical thought. However, when such logical dissection of his points takes place, he immediately cries racism.

He also supports Tottenham.

Let's say this: if he's some kind of genius, he's hiding it fúcking well.

[Burney]

But you aren't making the argument that people with degrees are not more likely to be intelligent than those that do not, are you?

Because you know that isn't true.

No, I'm not making that argument. There is obviously a level of intelligence required to get past a certain point of educational attainment that some people simply do not have and thus will never get to university.

Excluding that section of society, however, my experience is that I've found exactly the same number of stupid people with degrees as without. :shrug:

[Sir C]

I do get sick of this notion that where somebody went to school or university is proof of intelligence. It is - apart from anything else - fantastically reductive.

The other day I was thinking about it and realised that many of the people whose intelligence I most respect have never been near a university. Equally, I know a number of people with PhDs I wouldn't leave alone with a box of matches.

Much of what we laughingly call education consists of box-ticking exercises and is in and of itself no proof of intelligence whatsoever.

Gracious me, yes. And of course the whole thing is exacerbated by Comrade Blair's insistence that everyone have a degree. Within my own family there are people with degrees who struggle to operate anything more complex than a tea towel.

[redgunamo]

It's more that people's apparent definition of "intelligence" is far too narrow.



But you aren't making the argument that people with degrees are not more likely to be intelligent than those that do not, are you?

Because you know that isn't true.

[redgunamo]

In fairness, so does Harvard

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2019/3/14/admissions-national-investigation/



Well, I have no idea who he is or how he got in but getting into Harvard law School is no easy feat and much less likely to be achieved by someone as thick as Diane Abbott I would think.

Cambridge, I'm willing to bet, has a disadvantaged minority program which someone like Abbott could take advantage of.

[Luis Anaconda]

I tend to agree. The other day, Remain MPs were whining about feeling threatened and having nasty words said to them and I thought: 'You know what? Good. If our elected representatives choose to set themselves in opposition to those who elected them, they absolutely should be frightened.'

A few MPs dangling from lampposts pour encourager les autres would be no bad thing.
Does that count for rabid leavers in constituencies that voted remain? Raab, Howey and Redwood would be a nice trio to go

[Luis Anaconda]

Does that count for rabid leavers in constituencies that voted remain? Raab, Howey and Redwood would be a nice trio to go

oooo and Ian Duncan Smith

[Sir C]

oooo and Ian Duncan Smith

:nono: His father was a talented fighter pilot, la. Leave him alone please.

[Burney]

Does that count for rabid leavers in constituencies that voted remain? Raab, Howey and Redwood would be a nice trio to go

Absolutely. Bring it on.

Mind you, if all the Remain MPs in Leave constituencies and all the Leave MPs in Remain constituencies got it at the same time, I know which the bigger pile of bodies would be. :-)

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

Well, I have no idea who he is or how he got in but getting into Harvard law School is no easy feat and much less likely to be achieved by someone as thick as Diane Abbott I would think.

Cambridge, I'm willing to bet, has a disadvantaged minority program which someone like Abbott could take advantage of.



She also ****ed Jezza... not sure who comes out of that as the stupid one?

[redgunamo]

The real point is good breeding, I think. The idea being that if parents, let us say, are well-made enough to arrange decent billets at top educational establishments for their brood, however they do it, then that ought to count for something. Ought to count for alot, in fact. It strongly suggests that they and theirs are of the right sort, regardless of the kids perhaps all being thick ****s.

The acceptance and/or attendance at a good school is the thing, rather than the performance once there. Or even before and after.



I do get sick of this notion that where somebody went to school or university is proof of intelligence. It is - apart from anything else - fantastically reductive.

The other day I was thinking about it and realised that many of the people whose intelligence I most respect have never been near a university. Equally, I know a number of people with PhDs I wouldn't leave alone with a box of matches.

Much of what we laughingly call education consists of box-ticking exercises and is in and of itself no proof of intelligence whatsoever.

[Luis Anaconda]

Absolutely. Bring it on.

Mind you, if all the Remain MPs in Leave constituencies and all the Leave MPs in Remain constituencies got it at the same time, I know which the bigger pile of bodies would be. :-)

Oh yes - well aware of that

[WES]

Oh yes - well aware of that

Well, yes, but that's because MPs are mostly intelligent and well educated and as we know, well educated people voted overwhelmingly to Remain.

I shall say no more. :-)

[redgunamo]

Different matter entirely. A vote was held and the result is in; not liking that result is no reason not to credit it :shrug:



Does that count for rabid leavers in constituencies that voted remain? Raab, Howey and Redwood would be a nice trio to go

[redgunamo]

#FollowTheMoney #U1 :rubchin:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/9859780/Revealed-Tony-Blair-and-the-oligarch-bankrolling-his-charity.html



Gracious me, yes. And of course the whole thing is exacerbated by Comrade Blair's insistence that everyone have a degree. Within my own family there are people with degrees who struggle to operate anything more complex than a tea towel.