Forza Citeh, etc

[IUFG]

You see, this is the sort of shíthousery that makes the rest of the world not want the dippers to win it...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47686709
****s

[Pokster]

You see, this is the sort of shíthousery that makes the rest of the world not want the dippers to win it...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47686709
****s

Can you imagine the same BBC article if Spurs were in with a real chance (lol), they obviously would struggle to find anyone alive who remembers the last time to actually interview.

[PSRB]

You see, this is the sort of shíthousery that makes the rest of the world not want the dippers to win it...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47686709
****s

Was at lunch with a big Man U fan and he said they'd rather finish 5th than see Liverpool win the league

[Burney]

You see, this is the sort of shíthousery that makes the rest of the world not want the dippers to win it...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47686709
****s

Imagine this, but every day on every mainstream media outlet FOR MONTHS ON END.

That's what Liverpool winning it would mean.

I can't believe some people can even bear to countenance this possibility in exchange for us going out of the CL in the first knockout stage. :shrug:

[Pokster]

Imagine this, but every day on every mainstream media outlet FOR MONTHS ON END.

That's what Liverpool winning it would mean.

I can't believe some people can even bear to countenance this possibility in exchange for us going out of the CL in the first knockout stage. :shrug:
Because we support Arsenal, unlike you obviously who lets his dislike for the scousers get in the way

[Sir C]

You see, this is the sort of shíthousery that makes the rest of the world not want the dippers to win it...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47686709
****s

What sort of socialist nonsense is this? Worry about what your team is doing. Jealously peering over your fence at what the neighbours might have is the stuff of leftism.

[Burney]

What sort of socialist nonsense is this? Worry about what your team is doing. Jealously peering over your fence at what the neighbours might have is the stuff of leftism.

This isn't about peering jealously over the fence, it's about being bombarded by relentless scouse propaganda to the point where one has to go and live in a fúcking cave.

[Pokster]

This isn't about peering jealously over the fence, it's about being bombarded by relentless scouse propaganda to the point where one has to go and live in a fúcking cave.

Go and live in Kent with Monty, fingers crossed they will have no internet coverage

[WES]

This isn't about peering jealously over the fence, it's about being bombarded by relentless scouse propaganda to the point where one has to go and live in a fúcking cave.

It really isn't that hard to ignore it, Burney.

I saw that article on BBC and decided to not click on it. :shrug:

What a surprise that IUFG posted it. Almost like that unmentionable referee's name that we can't seen to get rid of. :rolleyes:

[Luis Anaconda]

Can you imagine the same BBC article if Spurs were in with a real chance (lol), they obviously would struggle to find anyone alive who remembers the last time to actually interview.

Your chance to be on telly?

[IUFG]

This isn't about peering jealously over the fence, it's about being bombarded by relentless scouse propaganda to the point where one has to go and live in a fúcking cave.

Quite right, b. Sc doesn't know what the fúck he's talkin' 'bout

[Sir C]

This isn't about peering jealously over the fence, it's about being bombarded by relentless scouse propaganda to the point where one has to go and live in a fúcking cave.

:shrug: Stop listening to Talksport.

[Burney]

Because we support Arsenal, unlike you obviously who lets his dislike for the scousers get in the way

It's a straight balancing of pros and cons from my point of view. The frantic, pro-scouse circle jerk would be so intolerable that it would in no way be compensated for by another dreary and unsuccessful run in the CL (which, let's face it, is all we'd manage) of the sort that I haven't missed one little bit over the past two seasons.

I'm simply being realistic and pragmatic. :shrug:

[Burney]

:shrug: Stop listening to Talksport.

I did. Well over a decade ago.

The BBC, Sky and every single newspaper will be screaming about Klopp's heroes ending 30 years of hurt. Scousers you'd forgotten existed would be crawling out of the woodwork to slime all over our TV screens while talking about 'The Boot Room' and Bob ****ing Paisley. Ian Rush will probably appear again. And Sammy Lee.

And the accents. The fúcking accents. :cry:

Honestly, if only there were a fence big enough to push the entire population of Liverpool into... :puke:

[Sir C]

I did. Well over a decade ago.

The BBC, Sky and every single newspaper will be screaming about Klopp's heroes ending 30 years of hurt. Scousers you'd forgotten existed would be crawling out of the woodwork to slime all over our TV screens while talking about 'The Boot Room' and Bob ****ing Paisley. Ian Rush will probably appear again. And Sammy Lee.

And the accents. The fúcking accents. :cry:

Honestly, if only there were a fence big enough to push the entire population of Liverpool into... :puke:

It's like complaining about Phil Collins records. Just don't listen to it.

I haven't seen, read or heard a single thing about Bexit in a week now. It's simple. Just ignore or switch off as appropriate.

[Luis Anaconda]

I did. Well over a decade ago.

The BBC, Sky and every single newspaper will be screaming about Klopp's heroes ending 30 years of hurt. Scousers you'd forgotten existed would be crawling out of the woodwork to slime all over our TV screens while talking about 'The Boot Room' and Bob ****ing Paisley. Ian Rush will probably appear again. And Sammy Lee.

And the accents. The fúcking accents. :cry:

Honestly, if only there were a fence big enough to push the entire population of Liverpool into... :puke:

I have sympathies with view. When they were in with a shout a couple of years ago my local started filling up with German-supporting Liverpool fans all sporting the latest shirt right off the shelf. Never showed up before, never been seen since. ****s to a man.

[Ash]

What sort of socialist nonsense is this? Worry about what your team is doing. Jealously peering over your fence at what the neighbours might have is the stuff of leftism.

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's Ox?

[Burney]

It's like complaining about Phil Collins records. Just don't listen to it.

I haven't seen, read or heard a single thing about Bexit in a week now. It's simple. Just ignore or switch off as appropriate.

Phil Collins is unfairly criticised. FACT.

And, given that you are a football fan, how do you propose to avoid all football coverage for the next season? Turn the sound down?

[Sir C]

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's Ox?

Exactly. Thou shalt ignore thy neighbour's ox and go and work for one's own ox.

[IUFG]

It really isn't that hard to ignore it, Burney.

I saw that article on BBC and decided to not click on it. :shrug:

What a surprise that IUFG posted it. Almost like that unmentionable referee's name that we can't seen to get rid of. :rolleyes:

everyone loves a bit of balance, w
https://media.giphy.com/media/WmXMB3EGDBLjY8gJSf/giphy.gif

[IUFG]

Phil Collins is unfairly criticised. FACT.

I'm not sure I'm entirely with you on that, b

dashing him against a wall is what he needs, imo

[Burney]

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's Ox?

Scousers don't merely covet their neighbour's oxen, they'll have the hubcaps off them as soon as the neighbour turns his back. Vermin.

[Burney]

I'm not sure I'm entirely with you on that, b

dashing him against a wall is what he needs, imo

Face Value and No Jacket Required are good albums. Hello! I Must Be Going also has some excellent songs.

:shrug:

[Sir C]

Phil Collins is unfairly criticised. FACT.

And, given that you are a football fan, how do you propose to avoid all football coverage for the next season? Turn the sound down?

Face Value is a terrific album.

I always have the sound down. Watching football, not listening to Phil Collins.

[Burney]

Face Value is a terrific album.

I always have the sound down. Watching football, not listening to Phil Collins.

I reckon redgunamo's a Collins' fan as well. He must be - he LOVED Miami Vice.

I think it's time we started a movement to drive a reassessment of Phil's oeuvre.

[Sir C]

I reckon redgunamo's a Collins' fan as well. He must be - he LOVED Miami Vice.

I think it's time we started a movement to drive a reassessment of Phil's oeuvre.

Speaking of that sort of thing, I saw an interview with Mark Knopfler the other day which led me to look at some old live stuff and, fúck me, that boy could play, man.

[IUFG]

Face Value and No Jacket Required are good albums. Hello! I Must Be Going also has some excellent songs.

:shrug:

the man is responsible for such tracks as

Easy Lover
Two Hearts
Another Day in Paradise

for those alone, he should be dragged naked through broken glass, rolled in salt and then soaked in vinegar.

[Sir C]

the man is responsible for such tracks as

Easy Lover
Two Hearts
Another Day in Paradise

for those alone, he should be dragged naked through broken glass, rolled in salt and then soaked in vinegar.

His vocal performance on Supper's Ready alone absolves him of any real cristicism.

[IUFG]

His vocal performance on Supper's Ready alone absolves him of any real cristicism.

I'm afraid a Rubicon was crossed with those tracks I listed, sc...

[Viva Prat Vegas]

Phil Collins 'supports' QPR, Man Utd AND Spurs

Ergo he is a cund

[IUFG]

Phil Collins 'supports' QPR, Man Utd AND Spurs

Ergo he is a cund

oh, that exacerbates things...

[Ash]

the man is responsible for such tracks as

Easy Lover
Two Hearts
Another Day in Paradise

for those alone, he should be dragged naked through broken glass, rolled in salt and then soaked in vinegar.

And that swutting paint pot.

[Burney]

the man is responsible for such tracks as

Easy Lover
Two Hearts
Another Day in Paradise

for those alone, he should be dragged naked through broken glass, rolled in salt and then soaked in vinegar.

Stevie Wonder produced 'I Just Called To Say I Love You', 'Isn't She Lovely?' and 'Golden Lady'

He's also one of the greatest recording artists of all time.

Paul McCartney wrote The Frog Chorus and The Pipes of Peace. He's also widely acknowledged to be the chief musical force behind The Beatles.

Bob Dylan has churned out some terrible shíte, but is also one of the greatest.

The point is that judging artists by their lowest points is not a productive path.

[redgunamo]

Spot on :love:

https://i.redd.it/phs0ail0vmm11.jpg


I reckon redgunamo's a Collins' fan as well. He must be - he LOVED Miami Vice.

I think it's time we started a movement to drive a reassessment of Phil's oeuvre.

[Ash]

Phil Collins 'supports' QPR, Man Utd AND Spurs

Ergo he is a cund

Good Lord.

I think that about wraps it up. :judge:

[redgunamo]

Easy to forget as he's been out so long, but even the Ox is a scouser nowadays :-\



Exactly. Thou shalt ignore thy neighbour's ox and go and work for one's own ox.

[Ash]

Speaking of that sort of thing, I saw an interview with Mark Knopfler the other day which led me to look at some old live stuff and, fúck me, that boy could play, man.

Was that the one with Brian Johnson? Nice story about the pub in Deptford that inspired Sultans of Swing.

I also liked the bit about fame. "Success is good, but fame is like the exhaust gas from it".

[IUFG]

Stevie Wonder produced 'I Just Called To Say I Love You', 'Isn't She Lovely?' and 'Golden Lady'

He's also one of the greatest recording artists of all time.

Paul McCartney wrote The Frog Chorus and The Pipes of Peace. He's also widely acknowledged to be the chief musical force behind The Beatles.

Bob Dylan has churned out some terrible shíte, but is also one of the greatest.

The point is that judging artists by their lowest points is not a productive path.

Yes, yes, but Phil Collins' zenith is very, very close to his nadir...

[Burney]

Yes, yes, but Phil Collins' zenith is very, very close to his nadir...

My zenith is very close to your mum's nadir :vsign:

[WES]

My zenith is very close to your mum's nadir :vsign:

:rubchin: pretty sure I would have that joke the other way around, Burney

[Burney]

:rubchin: pretty sure I would have that joke the other way around, Burney

No. I thought about it. 'My high point is near her low point' works from a physiological point of view.

[WES]

No. I thought about it. 'My high point is near her low point' works from a physiological point of view.

Ah, fair point. I was thinking of it more figuratively.*

*no idea if that is the right word or not

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

Phil Collins is unfairly criticised. FACT.

Unfairly criticised! Are you attempting to suggest that calling the man an incorrigible, irredeemable monstrous great ****sock is somehow unfair?

[Pokster]

Unfairly criticised! Are you attempting to suggest that calling the man an incorrigible, irredeemable monstrous great ****sock is somehow unfair?

How anyone can defend Collins is beyond me...what has the world come to

[Burney]

Unfairly criticised! Are you attempting to suggest that calling the man an incorrigible, irredeemable monstrous great ****sock is somehow unfair?

:yawn: You're a middle-aged (I'm being kind) man. Don't you think it's about time you outgrew these childish notions of what's 'cool' and simply learned to evaluate these things on their own merits?

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

:yawn: You're a middle-aged (I'm being kind) man. Don't you think it's about time you outgrew these childish notions of what's 'cool' and simply learned to evaluate these things on their own merits?

You're a ghastly old Tory tosser (I'm being overtly generous). Any chance of you doing the same?(I've seen you dissing The Boss I think).

I was an old skool Genesis man so could never love Collins (note the kool way I spell skool b).

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

Ah, fair point. I was thinking of it more figuratively.*

*no idea if that is the right word or not

Of course you've no idea WES and we wouldn't expect you to have (you being from Canadia). Probably best to restrict yourself to a narrower more simplified lexicon old chap. Much less likely to embarrass yourself.

[Burney]

You're a ghastly old Tory tosser (I'm being overtly generous). Any chance of you doing the same?(I've seen you dissing The Boss I think).

I was an old skool Genesis man so could never love Collins (note the kool way I spell skool b).

I 'diss' 'The Boss' not because I don't think he's any good, but because I find his working-class, cars-and-girls pose rather ridiculous coming from a man who's never done a stroke of real work in his life.
That doesn't mean I don't like some of his songs very much. I simply find the act a bit silly.

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

I 'diss' 'The Boss' not because I don't think he's any good, but because I find his working-class, cars-and-girls pose rather ridiculous coming from a man who's never done a stroke of real work in his life.
That doesn't mean I don't like some of his songs very much. I simply find the act a bit silly.

That's rich! Playing a three hour rock 'n Roll set every night for three decades is a much greater physical grind than you've ever done you soft handed auld poove.

[Burney]

That's rich! Playing a three hour rock 'n Roll set every night for three decades is a much greater physical grind than you've ever done you soft handed auld poove.

You don't think that a man who's never had an actual job masquerading as the bard of working class America is even the tiniest bit ludicrous?

Not as ludicrous as the nice Jewish son of an electrical retailer from Duluth, Minnesota masquerading as a hard-bitten, boxcar-ridin' hobo, of course, but still.

All in all, Woody Guthrie has a lot to answer for.

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

You don't think that a man who's never had an actual job masquerading as the bard of working class America is even the tiniest bit ludicrous?

Not as ludicrous as the nice Jewish son of an electrical retailer from Duluth, Minnesota masquerading as a hard-bitten, boxcar-ridin' hobo, of course, but still.

All in all, Woody Guthrie has a lot to answer for.

Oh totally ludicrous. As ludicrous as Joe Strummer, the son of a Second Secretary of the Foreign Service, posing as a street boy growing up under the shadow of The Westway - I make everyone in that band equally as pretentious.

Or Keef Richards and Shane McGowan having both been Westminster Choirboys. Everyone's at it b. Daniel Day Lewis has started reminiscing about his days on the Millwall terraces for fúck's sake - the son a poet Laureate!

[Burney]

Oh totally ludicrous. As ludicrous as Joe Strummer, the son of a Second Secretary of the Foreign Service, posing as a street boy growing up under the shadow of The Westway - I make everyone in that band equally as pretentious.

Or Keef Richards and Shane McGowan having both been Westminster Choirboys. Everyone's at it b. Daniel Day Lewis has started reminiscing about his days on the Millwall terraces for fúck's sake - the son a poet Laureate!

To be fair to Keef, he sang at Westminster Abbey, but was never at Westminster (unlike McGowan). Strictly Dartford Technical College was Keef.

Mick, by contrast, was Dartford Grammar and the LSE.

[Ash]

Oh totally ludicrous. As ludicrous as Joe Strummer, the son of a Second Secretary of the Foreign Service, posing as a street boy growing up under the shadow of The Westway - I make everyone in that band equally as pretentious.


I don't think the others were politically pretentious. Image-wise, in their cowboy boots, yes, but that's in the job description tbf. Oh, and all the crap Mick filled the second and third discs of Sandinista with.

It was only Joe that demanded that they should all be poor. Mick just wanted the cash, Topper the drugs.

[Burney]

I don't think the others were politically pretentious. Image-wise, in their cowboy boots, yes, but that's in the job description tbf. Oh, and all the crap Mick filled the second and third discs of Sandinista with.

It was only Joe that demanded that they should all be poor. Mick just wanted the cash, Topper the drugs.

I could never cotton to The Clash, I'm afraid. Mind you, I became musically conscious after Sandanista!, by which time they'd very much disappeared up their own arses.

[WES]

To be fair to Keef, he sang at Westminster Abbey, but was never at Westminster (unlike McGowan). Strictly Dartford Technical College was Keef.

Mick, by contrast, was Dartford Grammar and the LSE.

Mick never pretended to be anything other than middle class, tbf. He was always the intellectual, cultured one. I mean, writing one of their best and most famous songs based on Bulgakov's novel and Baudelaire hardly marks him out as a man of the streets, does it?

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

Back in the pre-internet days of course, you could get away with all sorts of reinvention shít. Bowie originally allowed us to believe he was from Brixton rather than renting a bedsit there for a short while after he'd left home (or some such).

I'm sure I remember Strummer claiming in the NME circa 79/80 that he had never lived below the tenth floor of the Tower Block he grew up in by The Westway.

I think even Lydon's claims to have been a North Bank regular in the late 70's have a specious smack about them. I was on that terrace for most of '74 - 81 and I reckon he would have stood out like a dog's bollócks. Punks, if you remember, just did not do football.

(this was a response to Ash n Berni - can't be arsed to delete and re-post)

[Luis Anaconda]

Mick never pretended to be anything other than middle class, tbf. He was always the intellectual, cultured one. I mean, writing one of their best and most famous songs based on Bulgakov's novel and Baudelaire hardly marks him out as a man of the streets, does it?

:hehe: Just found this quote from him on that: "I think that was taken from an old idea of Baudelaire's, I think, but I could be wrong. Sometimes when I look at my Baudelaire books, I can't see it in there. But it was an idea I got from French writing. And I just took a couple of lines and expanded on it. I wrote it as sort of like a Bob Dylan song."

[Burney]

Mick never pretended to be anything other than middle class, tbf. He was always the intellectual, cultured one. I mean, writing one of their best and most famous songs based on Bulgakov's novel and Baudelaire hardly marks him out as a man of the streets, does it?

No, but he did sing 'Streetfighting Man' and sing about knocking about with factory girls.

[Burney]

:hehe: Just found this quote from him on that: "I think that was taken from an old idea of Baudelaire's, I think, but I could be wrong. Sometimes when I look at my Baudelaire books, I can't see it in there. But it was an idea I got from French writing. And I just took a couple of lines and expanded on it. I wrote it as sort of like a Bob Dylan song."

Come on, la! Which of us doesn't like to kick back with a slim volume of Les fleurs du mal?

[WES]

No, but he did sing 'Streetfighting Man' and sing about knocking about with factory girls.

I think you're getting carried away with this 'musician only sings about personal experiences' thing, Burney.

I mean, you would want Chuck Berry to be restricted to songs about p1ssing on white prostitutes and shagging 14 year old girls, would you? :shrug:

[Burney]

Back in the pre-internet days of course, you could get away with all sorts of reinvention shít. Bowie originally allowed us to believe he was from Brixton rather than renting a bedsit there for a short while after he'd left home (or some such).

I'm sure I remember Strummer claiming in the NME circa 79/80 that he had never lived below the tenth floor of the Tower Block he grew up in by The Westway.

I think even Lydon's claims to have been a North Bank regular in the late 70's have a specious smack about them. I was on that terrace for most of '74 - 81 and I reckon he would have stood out like a dog's bollócks. Punks, if you remember, just did not do football.

(this was a response to Ash n Berni - can't be arsed to delete and re-post)

Brixton can fúck off. Bowie was, of course, a product of Bromley. Although his brother was in the loony bin at Cane Hill just outside Croydon and topped himself himself at nearby South Coulsdon station.

Mind you, claiming to be from Brixton wasn't the worst of his sins. **** claimed he was from outer space at one point.

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

Mick never pretended to be anything other than middle class, tbf. He was always the intellectual, cultured one. I mean, writing one of their best and most famous songs based on Bulgakov's novel and Baudelaire hardly marks him out as a man of the streets, does it?

The give away with Mick w is the line "I see my red door, I must have it painted black" not "I must nip down to B&Q, buy a pot of paint and paint the fúcker myself".

[Burney]

I think you're getting carried away with this 'musician only sings about personal experiences' thing, Burney.

I mean, you would want Chuck Berry to be restricted to songs about p1ssing on white prostitutes and shagging 14 year old girls, would you? :shrug:

No, but in Stray Cat Blues, Mick does sing about shagging 15 year-old girls.

Of course I'm not asking for all records to be based on personal experience (I'm pretty sure Elton John has never been on a rocket or missed his wife), I only get irritated when the persona becomes such a part of the artist's image that we start to forget it's a persona.

[Burney]

The give away with Mick w is the line "I see my red door, I must have it painted black" not "I must nip down to B&Q, buy a pot of paint and paint the fúcker myself".

I heard it on something the other day and it struck me just what a weird song 'She's A Rainbow' was to come from the Stones. It's not a bad song, it's just not a Stones song.

[WES]

I heard it on something the other day and it struck me just what a weird song 'She's A Rainbow' was to come from the Stones. It's not a bad song, it's just not a Stones song.

From their psychedelic effort, Satanic Majesties Request - whole thing was pretty pointless and f*cked up. Much like them at that point.

I suppose being out of your mind on LSD for most of the year is a pretty good excuse for pretty much anything.

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

From their psychedelic effort, Satanic Majesties Request - whole thing was pretty pointless and f*cked up. Much like them at that point.

I suppose being out of your mind on LSD for most of the year is a pretty good excuse for pretty much anything.

Imagine if they'd had a George Martin producing. Might have been slightly grittier version of the galactically brilliant Sgt Pepper's :nod:

[Burney]

Imagine if they'd had a George Martin producing. Might have been slightly grittier version of the galactically brilliant Sgt Pepper's :nod:

Yes. Which is what they were clearly aping - despite repeatedly denying it for years and years.

[Ash]

Imagine if they'd had a George Martin producing. Might have been slightly grittier version of the galactically brilliant Sgt Pepper's :nod:

I often wonder what The Kinks early work might have sounded like if George had produced them instead of Shel Talmy. There might have been some better guitar solos for a start.

[Burney]

I often wonder what The Kinks early work might have sounded like if George had produced them instead of Shel Talmy. There might have been some better guitar solos for a start.

Be fair: they wrote probably the two most seminal riffs in modern music.

[redgunamo]

I do like one or two of his songs but, basically, anybody who writes or performs a hit record deserves great respect, imo.



Good Lord.

I think that about wraps it up. :judge:

[Ash]

Be fair: they wrote probably the two most seminal riffs in modern music.

Yeah, riffs. Dave was good at them. His breaks were not so good, and I speak as a Kinks fan.

[Ash]

I do like one or two of his songs but, basically, anybody who writes or performs a hit record deserves great respect, imo.

I think this bloke kept Vienna off No 1 for about seven weeks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFacWGBJ_cs

[redgunamo]

Terrific. I looked that one up awhile ago (they played it on the oldies' radio station that's always on in the kitchen); the chap has lived off that ever since, just going about performing his own stuff as he chooses and living his life. Sounds perfect, you have to respect that :shrug:



I think this bloke kept Vienna off No 1 for about seven weeks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFacWGBJ_cs

[barrybueno]

carragher just now
****ing hate em
that **** Phil Thomson big time
Please City...

[EmielMills]

You see, this is the sort of shíthousery that makes the rest of the world not want the dippers to win it...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47686709
****s
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